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<blockquote data-quote="Unwise" data-source="post: 6298398" data-attributes="member: 98008">I agree that that is what seperates a defender from others, the issue my group finds though is that in some group make ups, there is just not much point getting them to attack the defender, rather than another class that has equally high defenses. My players would find themselves saying &quot;why do I want him to hit me again?&quot; when, after the first couple of hits, other people could weather it just as well as them. Now in another group I DM for, there is an Battlemind who has 18 healing surges, which each one being worth 35HP, who has the ability to spend five surges per fight just from himself. In his case, there is no shadow of a doubt that he is the one you want the enemy beating on. Low level defenders of non-Con based classes don't always have the same certainty.I agree that a close burst/blast specialist is a coherent concept that would warrant some significant expenditure in defensive feats. I was just wondering if that is what the OP is after and how deeply he wants to invest in it and why. One of my players runs a Dragon Sorcerer, almost everything he uses is a close blast attack. It was well worth him buying leather armor and some defensive items, even though he is paired with an exceptional defender. The investment is matter of degree I think.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Unwise, post: 6298398, member: 98008"] I agree that that is what seperates a defender from others, the issue my group finds though is that in some group make ups, there is just not much point getting them to attack the defender, rather than another class that has equally high defenses. My players would find themselves saying "why do I want him to hit me again?" when, after the first couple of hits, other people could weather it just as well as them. Now in another group I DM for, there is an Battlemind who has 18 healing surges, which each one being worth 35HP, who has the ability to spend five surges per fight just from himself. In his case, there is no shadow of a doubt that he is the one you want the enemy beating on. Low level defenders of non-Con based classes don't always have the same certainty. I agree that a close burst/blast specialist is a coherent concept that would warrant some significant expenditure in defensive feats. I was just wondering if that is what the OP is after and how deeply he wants to invest in it and why. One of my players runs a Dragon Sorcerer, almost everything he uses is a close blast attack. It was well worth him buying leather armor and some defensive items, even though he is paired with an exceptional defender. The investment is matter of degree I think. [/QUOTE]

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