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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DrAltaica" data-source="post: 7568837" data-attributes="member: 11140">That is what the classes in Core imply but don't actual say. The just say you get at the level you get them and rely on you just  knowing how it's intended to work. It's a common enough problem that it's in the core FAQ, do I get bonus spells before the indented lvl, but they just quote the core book "In addition to having a high ability score, a spellcaster must be of a high enoughclass level to be able to cast spells of a given spell level." but the only detail in the class descs is "you get the bonus spells according to the table 1-3." and able to cast a spell means to prepare a when it talks about you maximum limit of prepared spells so it's only fare to assume they mean the same thing with the bonus spells. It's hard for me to  beleive that worn't intentionaly misleading peopble into thing you get the spell slots at or the would have just said, "You get your bonus spell slots when to get your first standard spell slot of that lvl" That's how everyone else explains it.  I know that every GM know that how it works but "univerally understood to be the case" is not same as RAw The rules make no  mention of the fact that of what level you get your bonus spell slots only that it's linked to you class level and to see the class desc for forther details and the class desc just says that you get the listed bonus spells as a base class feature and base class  feature you get at level one. therefor you get your bonus spells at level one and since you get the bonus spell slot at lvl1 you are capable of casting spells of that lvl at lvl1 so it's constant with the rule on page 16 I know that the rules as intended and universally known, but that is not RAw.I'm surprise no one questions the face that oracles break the intended limit on how many spells you can imbue. and instead insist that the RAw clearly state that you get the bonus spell slots when you get a normal spell slot of that that spell lvl.</blockquote>

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