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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 6091791" data-attributes="member: 82504">I am not presuming anything here that D&D encounter design.. challenging fights... So the DM notices the party not being challenged because the Cleric makes things safe and cozy and he doesnt increase the power of those 3-4 fights so things stay exciting?  If they want it safer the Cleric enables that ... if they dont the healer enables battling bigger more awesom monsters... there really isnt anything the cleric isnt doing with healing that the fighter defending wouldnt be appropriate to accomplish ... but simply cant because your Cleric is UBER over powered and contributes twice the "stamina" - Its rally is Increased Party Potency and Safety during bigger fewer fights unless you come up with some way to change it.. ... in fact at some point there is nothing that you might desire in the fight any fighter does which  the Cleric isnt accomplishing indirectly by way of that healing.  If you fight this 2X contributer might as well be named  Mrx2 And the Healer also help assures you dont get screwed by lacking your Rogue, Wizard, Fighter ... if you have challenging fights his value is versatile like having 2 of a fighter (somewhat less than two of wizards because of dailies but since the cleric is probably ALSO doing versatile casting not just healing hoot  its a WIN WIN)I am not presuming anything.. here that D*D hasnt always shot for... Sorry about the quote fix.We are talking about somethings value being great enough its stupid not to use it.... is that the same as need... might as well be for most D&D players.</blockquote>

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