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<blockquote data-quote="Falling Icicle" data-source="post: 1483258" data-attributes="member: 17077"><p>So let me get this straight. The text is, to your own admission, vague and lacking enough information. So you just fill in whatever interpretation you care to come up with, and then have the audacity to call it official?</p><p></p><p>I can't believe this.</p><p></p><p>Read the Incantatrix class. Nothing else. It doesn't matter how some Red Wizard in some other book works. It doesn't matter at all. All that matters is what is written under the rules for that class. You can feel free to use another class as an example for changes you wish to make to your own game, of course. You can change, edit, add to or do anything you want in your game, but don't try and get away with calling your house rules and rule edits and clarifications official.</p><p></p><p>And this is not the first time that an ability that is similar or even has the same name has worked differently for one class than it does for another. Try checking out the <em>Hide in Plain Sight</em> abilities of the Ranger and the Shadowdancer. Hmmm. They aren't identical now are they? One is supernatural, one is extraodinary. One works when within range of a shadow, the other works in natural environments. And they even have the same name!</p><p></p><p>Ha ha. Gotcha. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> </p><p></p><p>The Enhanced Specialization of the Red Wizard and the Focused Studies of the Incantatrix are similar, but they don't have the same name and they don't have the same description. And as I've pointed out, you can't just go looking at another class for its rules even if the names of the abilities are identical. Only what is written for that class counts, not what is written for some other class.</p><p></p><p>It does not say anywhere in the Incantatrix class that they retain the spells they have already learned from the prohibited school or that they can continue to use those spells from items. And until something comes out that officially changes that, that's how it is. Like it or not. "Common sense" or not. Believable or not. Red Wizard or not. That is the way it is. I suggest you deal with it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Falling Icicle, post: 1483258, member: 17077"] So let me get this straight. The text is, to your own admission, vague and lacking enough information. So you just fill in whatever interpretation you care to come up with, and then have the audacity to call it official? I can't believe this. Read the Incantatrix class. Nothing else. It doesn't matter how some Red Wizard in some other book works. It doesn't matter at all. All that matters is what is written under the rules for that class. You can feel free to use another class as an example for changes you wish to make to your own game, of course. You can change, edit, add to or do anything you want in your game, but don't try and get away with calling your house rules and rule edits and clarifications official. And this is not the first time that an ability that is similar or even has the same name has worked differently for one class than it does for another. Try checking out the [i]Hide in Plain Sight[/i] abilities of the Ranger and the Shadowdancer. Hmmm. They aren't identical now are they? One is supernatural, one is extraodinary. One works when within range of a shadow, the other works in natural environments. And they even have the same name! Ha ha. Gotcha. :p The Enhanced Specialization of the Red Wizard and the Focused Studies of the Incantatrix are similar, but they don't have the same name and they don't have the same description. And as I've pointed out, you can't just go looking at another class for its rules even if the names of the abilities are identical. Only what is written for that class counts, not what is written for some other class. It does not say anywhere in the Incantatrix class that they retain the spells they have already learned from the prohibited school or that they can continue to use those spells from items. And until something comes out that officially changes that, that's how it is. Like it or not. "Common sense" or not. Believable or not. Red Wizard or not. That is the way it is. I suggest you deal with it. [/QUOTE]
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