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<blockquote data-quote="TanisFrey" data-source="post: 5421534" data-attributes="member: 26948"><p>You can modify spell completion items with metamagic when you are creating it. Quicken does affect an spell completion to a swift action. Applying a metamagic feat to any spell completion item will raise both the caster level and the spell level of an Item.</p><p></p><p>Quicken cannot be applied to a potion and are limited to 0th level spells for wands. Why? Quicken adds 4 spell level to the effective level. Potions can only hold (normal, that is) 3rd level spells and Wands can only hold 4th level spells.</p><p></p><p>Lets compare a Wand of Ray of Frost vs a Wand of Quicken Ray of Frost build cost for 3.5.</p><p>Wand of Ray of Frost = 1 x (1/2) x 750 = 375 gp plus 15 xp</p><p>Wand of Quicken Ray of Frost = 7 x 4 x 750 gp = 21,000 gp plus 840 xp</p><p></p><p>The Wand of Quicken Ray of Frost is 56 times the gp cost of its non quicken relative.</p><p></p><p>If a PC really wants to invest that much more gold to gain a swift action that does 1d3 frost damage with a touch attack, why not allow that? An extra 1d3 damage a round is not going to break the game.</p><p></p><p>Just remember to enforce the increase in <strong><u>SPELL LEVEL and CASTER LEVEL</u></strong>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TanisFrey, post: 5421534, member: 26948"] You can modify spell completion items with metamagic when you are creating it. Quicken does affect an spell completion to a swift action. Applying a metamagic feat to any spell completion item will raise both the caster level and the spell level of an Item. Quicken cannot be applied to a potion and are limited to 0th level spells for wands. Why? Quicken adds 4 spell level to the effective level. Potions can only hold (normal, that is) 3rd level spells and Wands can only hold 4th level spells. Lets compare a Wand of Ray of Frost vs a Wand of Quicken Ray of Frost build cost for 3.5. Wand of Ray of Frost = 1 x (1/2) x 750 = 375 gp plus 15 xp Wand of Quicken Ray of Frost = 7 x 4 x 750 gp = 21,000 gp plus 840 xp The Wand of Quicken Ray of Frost is 56 times the gp cost of its non quicken relative. If a PC really wants to invest that much more gold to gain a swift action that does 1d3 frost damage with a touch attack, why not allow that? An extra 1d3 damage a round is not going to break the game. Just remember to enforce the increase in [B][U]SPELL LEVEL and CASTER LEVEL[/U][/B]. [/QUOTE]
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