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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lamoni" data-source="post: 1118957" data-attributes="member: 12680">I am playing a Paladin and was trying to do the math to figure out my effective turning ability compared to our party's Cleric.  I just wanted to post here to see if I was right.We are level 10, I have a +5 modifier to Charisma while the Cleric has +0.  That means, with my effective cleric level of -3, I would on average roll 2 higher than the cleric.  According to the following table that would put me about one category above the cleric.Check Result, Most Powerful Undead Affected (Maximum Hit Dice)0 or lower, Cleric’s level – 41–3, Cleric’s level – 34–6, Cleric’s level – 27–9, Cleric’s level – 110–12, Cleric’s level13–15, Cleric’s level + 116–18, Cleric’s level + 219–21, Cleric’s level + 322 or higher, Cleric’s level + 4However, does my effective cleric level come into play again here?  So while the cleric on average would affect up to a level 10 undead (Cleric's level), I could only affect up to a level 8 undead (effective cleric level +1)  That means that in order to affect equal undead, I'd have to have a charisma modifier 12 greater than the Cleric.  Is this correct?I realize that in determining the turning damage, my rolls will be higher so I will just reserve my turning ability for when we come across lots of small undead.Question #2.  In determining critical damage, is everything multiplied?  If I use smite evil and power attack to give +20 to my damage and score a critical with an X3 weapon, does that translate to +60?</blockquote>

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