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<blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 4894698" data-attributes="member: 35909"><p>But being held doesn't require any sort of action. You can't just start running away out of turn. The turns are supposed to be 6 seconds, and you're only supposed to be able to do so much in that time.</p><p></p><p>And yeah, the undead should be taking the shaken penalties, I would think. And I make it pretty clear if an enemy is suffering the -2 from fear or not. Beyond that, I follow a general ruling of being aware if your ability failed or succeeded. If you use a will save spell on someone with no visual indication of whether it worked or not, the rules still say you're aware. I typically follow that when it comes to other things like turn undead.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="StreamOfTheSky, post: 4894698, member: 35909"] But being held doesn't require any sort of action. You can't just start running away out of turn. The turns are supposed to be 6 seconds, and you're only supposed to be able to do so much in that time. And yeah, the undead should be taking the shaken penalties, I would think. And I make it pretty clear if an enemy is suffering the -2 from fear or not. Beyond that, I follow a general ruling of being aware if your ability failed or succeeded. If you use a will save spell on someone with no visual indication of whether it worked or not, the rules still say you're aware. I typically follow that when it comes to other things like turn undead. [/QUOTE]
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