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<blockquote data-quote="Rystil Arden" data-source="post: 3559792" data-attributes="member: 29014">But Sorcerers don't care about those ranks very much.&nbsp; Sorcerers are cursed with a small skill list (they don't have knowledge: all, even).&nbsp; They are likely to be able to grab most of what they need without the extra skill points.&nbsp; And I would frankly much much rather have a +1 totally stackable bonus to a skill of my choice than an extra skill rank.&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; Breaking the rank cap of course!Also, claiming that Sorcerers are fairly poor is meaningless to the discussion.&nbsp; Pick whatever class you think is weakest--let's say Bards.&nbsp; If I make a race that is so overpowered for Bards that you would be a fool to pick anything else (let's say it gives you +4 Bardic Music uses per day, +4 effective Bard level for purposes of songs known and the power of your Inspire Courage, +4 rounds lingering duration of songs, +4 to DCs of songs with DCs or something like that), I might not be making Bards overpowered even after the race, but I would still be making the game less fun and be building an unbalanced race because I'm forcing players to knowingly be worse if they want to not choose that race for a Bard.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Rystil Arden, post: 3559792, member: 29014"] But Sorcerers don't care about those ranks very much. Sorcerers are cursed with a small skill list (they don't have knowledge: all, even). They are likely to be able to grab most of what they need without the extra skill points. And I would frankly much much rather have a +1 totally stackable bonus to a skill of my choice than an extra skill rank. Why? Breaking the rank cap of course! Also, claiming that Sorcerers are fairly poor is meaningless to the discussion. Pick whatever class you think is weakest--let's say Bards. If I make a race that is so overpowered for Bards that you would be a fool to pick anything else (let's say it gives you +4 Bardic Music uses per day, +4 effective Bard level for purposes of songs known and the power of your Inspire Courage, +4 rounds lingering duration of songs, +4 to DCs of songs with DCs or something like that), I might not be making Bards overpowered even after the race, but I would still be making the game less fun and be building an unbalanced race because I'm forcing players to knowingly be worse if they want to not choose that race for a Bard. [/QUOTE]

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