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<blockquote data-quote="Rystil Arden" data-source="post: 3565012" data-attributes="member: 29014">Any flyer can be a flying grappler to a Size Small character--you can't tell me you haven't faced flying creatures, you're just fortunate that your GM has decided to go easy on Small characters by relatively ignoring their weaknesses.You can't escape a pin with Escape Artist as a Wizard until level 12.&nbsp; You can reduce it to a grapple, but you don't have the right actions to escape (specifically, not enough attacks).&nbsp; By the time you have that many attacks, you'll already have Dimension Door et al.And as I showed upthread with actual numbers, the normal Wizard at low levels has a reasonable (though not great) chance to prevent / eventually stop or break the grapple.&nbsp; The Small character does not, and the difference is substantial.But you are correct that this isn't a thread about small size or the grapple rules.&nbsp; It seems pretty clear that you can't be convinced, but if I'm wrong and you'd like to discuss this, why not make a thread in the rules forum?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Rystil Arden, post: 3565012, member: 29014"] Any flyer can be a flying grappler to a Size Small character--you can't tell me you haven't faced flying creatures, you're just fortunate that your GM has decided to go easy on Small characters by relatively ignoring their weaknesses. You can't escape a pin with Escape Artist as a Wizard until level 12. You can reduce it to a grapple, but you don't have the right actions to escape (specifically, not enough attacks). By the time you have that many attacks, you'll already have Dimension Door et al. And as I showed upthread with actual numbers, the normal Wizard at low levels has a reasonable (though not great) chance to prevent / eventually stop or break the grapple. The Small character does not, and the difference is substantial. But you are correct that this isn't a thread about small size or the grapple rules. It seems pretty clear that you can't be convinced, but if I'm wrong and you'd like to discuss this, why not make a thread in the rules forum? [/QUOTE]

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