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<blockquote data-quote="Sadrik" data-source="post: 6069019" data-attributes="member: 14506">No, there is a clear reason to have them. Just like the cleric and wizard have their own spell list and different class features, armor selection, and weapons this is true for fighters and rogues too. They can have a different selection of maneuvers, combat feats, or whatever. Fundamentally they should work the same though. And a very important point too is that these abilities need to carry over to monsters just like spells carry over to monsters. How I would like to see this done is by basically taking all of the combat feats and class features of the various 3e classes split them up into selectable things and apply them to class lists, carrying over some of the more universal ones. So based on the current play test pack you might have a fighter, rogue and monk list and perhaps a universal one for them all. There are many ways to accomplish this but it does show a perspective on how to accomplish this. If a fighter can multiclass into a spellcasting class to pick up some magic a wizard could multiclass into a warrior class to pick up some fighting ability. Then of course I am sure there could be some hybrid classes too, such as bard.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sadrik, post: 6069019, member: 14506"] No, there is a clear reason to have them. Just like the cleric and wizard have their own spell list and different class features, armor selection, and weapons this is true for fighters and rogues too. They can have a different selection of maneuvers, combat feats, or whatever. Fundamentally they should work the same though. And a very important point too is that these abilities need to carry over to monsters just like spells carry over to monsters. How I would like to see this done is by basically taking all of the combat feats and class features of the various 3e classes split them up into selectable things and apply them to class lists, carrying over some of the more universal ones. So based on the current play test pack you might have a fighter, rogue and monk list and perhaps a universal one for them all. There are many ways to accomplish this but it does show a perspective on how to accomplish this. If a fighter can multiclass into a spellcasting class to pick up some magic a wizard could multiclass into a warrior class to pick up some fighting ability. Then of course I am sure there could be some hybrid classes too, such as bard. [/QUOTE]

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