$2000 for ALL future Fast Forward products

[BigFreekinGoblinoid]

read on gamingreport.com // http://www.gamingreport.com/article.php?sid=8009&mode=thread&order=0

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Damon White Reports: "For a limited time, Fast Forward Entertainment, Inc. is offering true believers a chance to be a lifetime subscriber to all of Fast Forward’s products. Yessiree, Bob! For the low, low price of $2000.00 US, you will receive one of every product Fast Forward makes from the time you send in your

money until the day you stop rolling dice for good! This is an opportunity that will not last very long.

Back in the day, a young company by the name of Tactical Studies Rules offered a lifetime subscription for $450 (not being a lifetime subscriber, I can’t tell you the amount for sure), and people I personally know, to this day, are still receiving products from TSR! For that small investment, they have received thousands of dollars worth of product (not to mention the collector value).

Just to show you what a great value this is, if you took one of every Fast Forward product from our first release in July of 2000 to the releases scheduled to ship this year, you would have OVER $2000.00 retail value already!

So here is what you have to do: Send in $2000.00 US (or do a PayPal transfer to us) and your name, address, and special ID will be held in a very special location at Fast Forward. From there, every quarter a large box will arrive at your doorstep filled with all the latest releases from the prolific fingers of Fast Forward. Every three months. Forever!

Where else can you get such a return on your investment? If you put your money in the stock market (based on recent history, hee, hee) you will earn your $2000.00 back in about 25 years or so, if at all. Or you can send your $2000.00 to that Nigerian guy that keeps emailing you and hope you get your share of $30,000,000.00 (yeah….that’s gonna happen), or you can put that money in the bank getting a whopping 1% interest for the next three years and end up with enough money made in interest to buy dinner at McBurger’s and not use the Dollar menu. Or….you can be rolling in games for the rest of your life! The choice is simple.

Here’s where you need to send your cash to get your games:

Fast Forward Entertainment, Inc.
772 W. Main St. Suite 205
Lake Geneva, WI 53147

Or you can use PayPal to sales@fastforwardgames.com

Or you can call us directly at 262-348-0440 and we’ll get all your information over the phone (and you get to talk to the stunning Fast Forward crew directly)."

John Danovich
VP Sales & Marketing
Fast Forward Entertainment, Inc.

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BFG says:
I thought the part about the TSR subscribers still gettiing product
seems a bit far-fetched... But hey, what do I know?

 

[trancejeremy]

I'd rather have the $2000.



(I actually remember you could get a lifetime subscription to Dragon for $200 or something. But I don't remember that product offer. Probably really early in the TSR days...)

 

[Greatwyrm]

This is an interesting offer. However, if I'm doing the math right, at an average of $30 per book, Fast Forward would have to release at least 67 more titles for me to break even. That's not counting discounts available to me at the FLGS, internet retailers, etc. Is it just me or is it a bit ambitious for a 3rd party publisher to expect to be able to put out that many titles at all, much less that many new titles above their existing works.

(Please don't take this as a slam against Fast Forward or anybody else. I'd be a bit skeptical even if WotC offered a deal like this.)

 

[drnuncheon]

This is an interesting offer. However, if I'm doing the math right, at an average of $30 per book, Fast Forward would have to release at least 67 more titles for me to break even. That's not counting discounts available to me at the FLGS, internet retailers, etc.

It's also not counting the money you could be earning if you invested the 2K somewhere else, and not counting the fact that there would probably be some of those titles that you wouldn't buy.

Me, I don't have $2000 in a lump sum to toss onto gaming purchases, and there's no company out there - not even WOTC or Green Ronin - that I would even consider buying every book from.

J
(well, maybe Bad Axe, but still not at those prices!)

 

[JoeGKushner]

I wonder if they're hurting for cash after having to burn four of their products?

 

[Crothian]

Nevermind I found it

 

[kingpaul]

I wonder if they're hurting for cash after having to burn four of their products?

While I wasn't going to quite put it that way, I was going to comment that it was interesting that this announcement comes out the day before the other one did.

 

[jmucchiello]

(I actually remember you could get a lifetime subscription to Dragon for $200 or something. But I don't remember that product offer. Probably really early in the TSR days...)

Actually, I think it was $200 for a lifetime subscription to the RPGA. Considering it was around for 20ish years before becoming free, not a bad investment. I remember when I was a member in the early 80s (and a teenager) giving serious consideration to paying for it. Funny, but back then I didn't see myself still playing when I got to this point in my life.

 

[Jim Butler]

The original program from TSR back in the late 70's did indeed offer those who invested a certain sum of money (I can't recall the exact amount, but I think it was $1,000) 1 free copy of all products that TSR produced. For those who took advantage of it, it turned out to be a good deal.

When Wizards bought TSR, there were 30-some people still getting free products. Wizards bought some of those people out of their lifetime contracts, but I believe the number is down to about 11 now. They're still receiving free copies of products.

 

[DaveMage]

I purchase most of the d20 print materials that are produced, but after what happened with FFE today, one has to wonder if they are simply doing this to raise money to pay a potential settlement over their misuse of Wizard's product identity, and then going to fold.

If there was some sort of legally binding guarantee that you would see *at least* $2000 worth of product, then it probably would be worthwhile (one that would guarantee you'd at least get your money back if the company went under - perhaps by first dibs on sale of assets, or some exception to bankruptcy protection). However, according to the ad, it would take a minimum of three more years of FFE creating products in an already tight market *and* that's if you consider the value of a product is MSRP, as opposed to a discounted price (which I usually pay).

I think the only d20 gaming company where this would be a favorable option would be through WotC, which at least has the backing of Hasbro (which could go under as well, of course, but I would think it's much less likely than a smaller company like FFE).