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<blockquote data-quote="fusangite" data-source="post: 3638084" data-attributes="member: 7240"><p>As we know from real world elections, the results of an election years ago, or, even more significantly, five cycles ago is, at best, an extremely poor predictor of the next election's results. Had you applied this principle to past judge elections, you would not have predicted that the two incumbents who were re-elected would have placed behind two new candidates. Similarly, you would not have guessed that Crothian/Chris would have been defeated. </p><p></p><p>What I have not seen from you is an explanation for why the next ENnies vote's finalists will bear such a strong resemblance to those in 2002 when</p><p>(a) the third-party publishing environment has changed</p><p>(b) ENWorld has changed</p><p>(c) the voter base has changed</p><p>(d) the companies entering the awards have changed</p><p>(e) the relationship between the awards and D20 system products have changed</p><p></p><p>I have no idea how WOTC will do in next year's awards. Because (a) of these changes and (b) <strong>we have no idea what products will be entered and which publishers will participate</strong>. Maybe WOTC will sweep the awards. Maybe they'll be annihilated. Maybe some outcome between those two will happen.</p><p></p><p>What I can rely on is that the judges will produce a solid and diverse list of nominees and the fans will vote on which products are best. And the products the fans believe are best will win. So, regardless of how any individual publisher does, I know that, like this year's awards, next year's ENnies will recognize excellence in game publishing.Green Ronin sells way more products than Expeditious Retreat Press; does this mean that it is a "foregone conclusion" that whenever Green Ronin's products go up against XRP that Green Ronin will win?</p><p></p><p>Given that we do not know how much or if voter turnout will increase with WOTC's entry, we have no basis on which to predict how relevant this information about the size of WOTC's customer base will even be.So? The ENies used to be attached to ENWorld. Now they're not. And ENWorld remains a site for <strong>all</strong> D20 games, not just WOTC product.</p><p></p><p>Why not base your arguments on data about the hobby now, not the hobby five years ago? That's one of the virtues of democracies -- they live in the present; things are what the voters make of them at the moment they cast their vote.</p><p></p><p>I guess I'm wondering if you believe in people's choice awards. Do you trust the voters to recognize excellence in their hobby?Again, your argument rebounds on companies like Green Ronin. Don't they also have "advantages" in your scheme?</p><p></p><p>A crucial point about the ENnies is that one award is for Best Publisher. The vast majority of awards are not for <em>companies</em>; they are for <em>products</em>. As the awards have demonstrated again and again, products with few resources behind them can and do beat products with many resources behind them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fusangite, post: 3638084, member: 7240"] As we know from real world elections, the results of an election years ago, or, even more significantly, five cycles ago is, at best, an extremely poor predictor of the next election's results. Had you applied this principle to past judge elections, you would not have predicted that the two incumbents who were re-elected would have placed behind two new candidates. Similarly, you would not have guessed that Crothian/Chris would have been defeated. What I have not seen from you is an explanation for why the next ENnies vote's finalists will bear such a strong resemblance to those in 2002 when (a) the third-party publishing environment has changed (b) ENWorld has changed (c) the voter base has changed (d) the companies entering the awards have changed (e) the relationship between the awards and D20 system products have changed I have no idea how WOTC will do in next year's awards. Because (a) of these changes and (b) [b]we have no idea what products will be entered and which publishers will participate[/b]. Maybe WOTC will sweep the awards. Maybe they'll be annihilated. Maybe some outcome between those two will happen. What I can rely on is that the judges will produce a solid and diverse list of nominees and the fans will vote on which products are best. And the products the fans believe are best will win. So, regardless of how any individual publisher does, I know that, like this year's awards, next year's ENnies will recognize excellence in game publishing.Green Ronin sells way more products than Expeditious Retreat Press; does this mean that it is a "foregone conclusion" that whenever Green Ronin's products go up against XRP that Green Ronin will win? Given that we do not know how much or if voter turnout will increase with WOTC's entry, we have no basis on which to predict how relevant this information about the size of WOTC's customer base will even be.So? The ENies used to be attached to ENWorld. Now they're not. And ENWorld remains a site for [b]all[/b] D20 games, not just WOTC product. Why not base your arguments on data about the hobby now, not the hobby five years ago? That's one of the virtues of democracies -- they live in the present; things are what the voters make of them at the moment they cast their vote. I guess I'm wondering if you believe in people's choice awards. Do you trust the voters to recognize excellence in their hobby?Again, your argument rebounds on companies like Green Ronin. Don't they also have "advantages" in your scheme? A crucial point about the ENnies is that one award is for Best Publisher. The vast majority of awards are not for [i]companies[/i]; they are for [i]products[/i]. As the awards have demonstrated again and again, products with few resources behind them can and do beat products with many resources behind them. [/QUOTE]
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