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<blockquote data-quote="Rasyr" data-source="post: 3329781" data-attributes="member: 2855"><p>But what about the converse? If you don't want to publish books that try to do more than one thing, doesn't that have the possibility of punishing those that don't?</p><p></p><p>For example, look at Shackled City, it wasn't even trying to be a setting book, the publisher didn't include it in Best Setting as a submission, the <strong>judges decided</strong> to do that, and in in the judges decision to expend the scope of that book, it knocked another book out of the running, one that did not try to be more than it was. Was that fair to the book that was knocked out?</p><p></p><p>Now I had been under the impression that the judges ability to move products around was meant to correct errors in submissions, not to put up a book for more awards than the published had submitted them for. In short, it got nominated through a loophole, through an unclear rule that only became clear after the fact.</p><p></p><p>Question:</p><p>If a publisher does not submit a product for a given award, why should judges be allowed to add that product to the list of possible nominations?</p><p></p><p>In short, by moving products into categories for which they were not submitted, that basically gives the judges a large amount of power to control what may or may not get the awards in the end because they could possibly put in a product that is marginally associated with a categroy to knock out one that is fully suited to it?</p><p></p><p>Is it FAIR to the publishers for the judges to have such power?</p><p></p><p>Would it be better if there was some sort of submission committee that determined category suitability prior to hand off to the judges?</p><p></p><p>Shouldn't the publishers be trusted to know what categories they want their products in?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I define a "main category" as a category that judges/evaluates the product as a whole, as opposed to judging/evaluating only a portion (i.e. rules, art, writing, etc.. only looks at a specific aspect, not the WHOLE product). And any descriptions for such "main categories" should, IMO, include the word "majority" since it is meant to describe the ENTIRE product.</p><p></p><p>Question:</p><p><strong>Why</strong> should judges be allowed add products to categories other than those that the publisher submitted the product for? </p><p></p><p>The question does NOT refer to the judges REMOVING a product from a category to which it was not suited in order to place it in its correct category. That is fixing an error, the question is in regard to judges putting products up for awards that the publishers did not ask for.....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rasyr, post: 3329781, member: 2855"] But what about the converse? If you don't want to publish books that try to do more than one thing, doesn't that have the possibility of punishing those that don't? For example, look at Shackled City, it wasn't even trying to be a setting book, the publisher didn't include it in Best Setting as a submission, the [b]judges decided[/b] to do that, and in in the judges decision to expend the scope of that book, it knocked another book out of the running, one that did not try to be more than it was. Was that fair to the book that was knocked out? Now I had been under the impression that the judges ability to move products around was meant to correct errors in submissions, not to put up a book for more awards than the published had submitted them for. In short, it got nominated through a loophole, through an unclear rule that only became clear after the fact. Question: If a publisher does not submit a product for a given award, why should judges be allowed to add that product to the list of possible nominations? In short, by moving products into categories for which they were not submitted, that basically gives the judges a large amount of power to control what may or may not get the awards in the end because they could possibly put in a product that is marginally associated with a categroy to knock out one that is fully suited to it? Is it FAIR to the publishers for the judges to have such power? Would it be better if there was some sort of submission committee that determined category suitability prior to hand off to the judges? Shouldn't the publishers be trusted to know what categories they want their products in? I define a "main category" as a category that judges/evaluates the product as a whole, as opposed to judging/evaluating only a portion (i.e. rules, art, writing, etc.. only looks at a specific aspect, not the WHOLE product). And any descriptions for such "main categories" should, IMO, include the word "majority" since it is meant to describe the ENTIRE product. Question: [b]Why[/b] should judges be allowed add products to categories other than those that the publisher submitted the product for? The question does NOT refer to the judges REMOVING a product from a category to which it was not suited in order to place it in its correct category. That is fixing an error, the question is in regard to judges putting products up for awards that the publishers did not ask for..... [/QUOTE]
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