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<blockquote data-quote="Jay Verkuilen" data-source="post: 7722573" data-attributes="member: 6873517">Those are very good points. I suspect that the dragonborn were an afterthought. Certainly, and by making this be a tax they remove the interesting non-combat options. &nbsp;IMO it would be better to have something that boosts cantrips as a class feature, making one of the warlock's big things being good at cantrips (though how that fits with the fluff of the class is anyone's guess). It's not as if you can cast more than one per turn anyway, generally, but if you want, have that boost bind until the start of your next turn. You can use whatever cantrip you like that way. There are a lot of them. One way to get rid of EB would be to make the extra damage granted by warlockness punch through all resistances much in the same way that Force due to Force resistance being quite rare. Warlock/Sorcerer with Quickened Spell is pretty dangerous as long as sorcery points hold out, though. 100%. WotC really, really hates debuffs. Bane should be on the Warlock list just as a default, as should several of the other spells granted by those &quot;list expander&quot; invocations, like Polymorph &quot;turned me into a newt... I got better&quot;. Or make those give you extra Mystic Arcana so that you have some long rest abilities that can represent a more caster-y warlock that isn't just spamming EB. Those would be pretty cool things to pick up but as it stands they require taking an Invocation and then burning one of your oh-so-rare spell slots, too. And probably suck at it because Athletics isn't a trained skill. It's better with some multiclassing though.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jay Verkuilen, post: 7722573, member: 6873517"] Those are very good points. I suspect that the dragonborn were an afterthought. Certainly, and by making this be a tax they remove the interesting non-combat options. IMO it would be better to have something that boosts cantrips as a class feature, making one of the warlock's big things being good at cantrips (though how that fits with the fluff of the class is anyone's guess). It's not as if you can cast more than one per turn anyway, generally, but if you want, have that boost bind until the start of your next turn. You can use whatever cantrip you like that way. There are a lot of them. One way to get rid of EB would be to make the extra damage granted by warlockness punch through all resistances much in the same way that Force due to Force resistance being quite rare. Warlock/Sorcerer with Quickened Spell is pretty dangerous as long as sorcery points hold out, though. 100%. WotC really, really hates debuffs. Bane should be on the Warlock list just as a default, as should several of the other spells granted by those "list expander" invocations, like Polymorph "turned me into a newt... I got better". Or make those give you extra Mystic Arcana so that you have some long rest abilities that can represent a more caster-y warlock that isn't just spamming EB. Those would be pretty cool things to pick up but as it stands they require taking an Invocation and then burning one of your oh-so-rare spell slots, too. And probably suck at it because Athletics isn't a trained skill. It's better with some multiclassing though. [/QUOTE]

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