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<blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 9488771" data-attributes="member: 6716779">Well I'm saying Bards and Clerics are still better. Alchemist is pants. &nbsp;This isn't even things like life clerics. Prayer of healing is lvl 3 for a cleric. &nbsp;Artificer is horrible underpowered in 2024 due to power creep on the other classes. It can do a little bit of everything&nbsp; but nothing well. That's most of its problem. &nbsp;Also keep in mind with the origin feats the few spells artificers have anyone can get eg guidance. You can take those feats as well but you're not a primary caster. You're always going to struggle dealing damage especially now with sharpshooter nerf.&nbsp; You don't get weapon masteries. Battle Smith is OK at best in 2024.&nbsp; Healing with spell slots in 2014 is so bad they buffed them in 2024. Healing words good not because of the amount healed but action economy if some ones reduced to 0 hp. Your not casting it to heal them but save their life.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zardnaar, post: 9488771, member: 6716779"] Well I'm saying Bards and Clerics are still better. Alchemist is pants. This isn't even things like life clerics. Prayer of healing is lvl 3 for a cleric. Artificer is horrible underpowered in 2024 due to power creep on the other classes. It can do a little bit of everything but nothing well. That's most of its problem. Also keep in mind with the origin feats the few spells artificers have anyone can get eg guidance. You can take those feats as well but you're not a primary caster. You're always going to struggle dealing damage especially now with sharpshooter nerf. You don't get weapon masteries. Battle Smith is OK at best in 2024. Healing with spell slots in 2014 is so bad they buffed them in 2024. Healing words good not because of the amount healed but action economy if some ones reduced to 0 hp. Your not casting it to heal them but save their life. [/QUOTE]

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