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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ashrym" data-source="post: 9489123" data-attributes="member: 6750235">That's still subjective opinion.Clerics still don't offer Tool Expertise or Flash of Genius, and Find Traps still isn't close to using Thieves' Tools.It's not power creep.  Adjustments went both ways.  This includes some Artificer spells and how tool interaction works.Alchemists adding INT mod damage to Acid Splash as an AoE, for example.I mentioned this.  It's at the opportunity cost of a different feat.  Artificers (or Clerics or Druids) would have Guidance and that feat instead of either / or.Musician is a good source of advantage at that level, and Skilled allows for more tool proficiencies and therefore more Expertise for Artificers in addition to Guidance.Why do I care?  I'm not taking this class for damage in the first place.I've mentioned this several times.  The presumption that Artificers need to do more damage just because other classes can do more damage isn't a reason.Getting back to Acid Splash, targetting at an opponent and a 5' radius from them can hit more than 4 enemies with the bonus from Alchemist added.The cantrip spam is a thing for damage expectations for spellcasters, who all rely on cantrips a lot at low levels.Which I argued they shouldn't based on the structure and focus of the class, and added there's an opportunity to add Weapon Mastery within Infusions as update for 2024.It's still a poor choice.Not taking the damage in the first place is still better.  It makes "saving their life" a moot point, but Cure Wounds can also "save their life" if it becomes necessary.</blockquote>

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