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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 9041033" data-attributes="member: 23751"><p>Those sound cool, but I think the reason even "grognards" take the 4e innovations well is that they aren't the 4e versions. They are literally the 1e Plane of Shadow renamed into Shadowfell and the 3e Plane of Faerie renamed the Feywild. It's easy to take "4e innovations" well when they are literally the pre-4e versions. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>The difference between 1e shadow and 5e shadowfell is also name only. Read the 5e DMG entry. It's literally describing the old plane of shadow. About the only difference I see is that Ravenloft is in the plane of shadow(fell) now.</p><p></p><p>Okay, but 5e restored them to what they were. These are not the 4e versions. Shadowfell is literally the plane of shadow. Feywild is just a plane of the fey. The ethereal is the ethereal plane of old. </p><p></p><p>That also sounds cool, but isn't how 5e uses those planes.</p><p></p><p>Yes 5e keeps the shadowfell, but as name only. It is literally the old plane of shadow brought back with a different name. 5e's feywild is just a renamed version of 3e's the Plane of Faerie from the Manual of the Planes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 9041033, member: 23751"] Those sound cool, but I think the reason even "grognards" take the 4e innovations well is that they aren't the 4e versions. They are literally the 1e Plane of Shadow renamed into Shadowfell and the 3e Plane of Faerie renamed the Feywild. It's easy to take "4e innovations" well when they are literally the pre-4e versions. ;) The difference between 1e shadow and 5e shadowfell is also name only. Read the 5e DMG entry. It's literally describing the old plane of shadow. About the only difference I see is that Ravenloft is in the plane of shadow(fell) now. Okay, but 5e restored them to what they were. These are not the 4e versions. Shadowfell is literally the plane of shadow. Feywild is just a plane of the fey. The ethereal is the ethereal plane of old. That also sounds cool, but isn't how 5e uses those planes. Yes 5e keeps the shadowfell, but as name only. It is literally the old plane of shadow brought back with a different name. 5e's feywild is just a renamed version of 3e's the Plane of Faerie from the Manual of the Planes. [/QUOTE]
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