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<blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 9041067" data-attributes="member: 58172"><p>[USER=6909860]@Uni-the-Unicorn![/USER] are familiar with D&D 4e. Your characterizations about it are incorrect. The way 5e has Shadowfell and Feywild, is the way 4e generally has it. The Shadowfell as a destination of souls is the same in 4e and 5e. In 4e, it is possible for souls to go to an Astral Dominion in the afterlife, but souls typically go to the underworld, namely Shadowfell. Likewise, 5e Shadowfell is the realm of these Undead souls.</p><p></p><p>The only meaningful shifts are, the 5e Border Ethereal is (mostly?) neutral ether, rather than Shadow, and some of the 5e Dominions correlate with a binary alignment grid.</p><p></p><p>(4e had made alignment linear but 4e players widely disregarded this, both those who prefer the alignment quadrants and those who remove alignment from the game.)</p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree the changes 4e made to the cosmology have earlier presidents. This is part of the 4e design goal to "consolidate" similarities and enhance "salient" differences.</p><p></p><p>This is how evolution happens: repetition and variation. There are both real changes and real continuity.</p><p></p><p>Same goes for 5e. It is plainly a continuation of the 4e cosmology, rather than a return to a 3e cosmology. At the same time, it reintroduces some elements from 3e that 4e omitted. The result is a new evolution of the cosmology.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Yaarel, post: 9041067, member: 58172"] [USER=6909860]@Uni-the-Unicorn![/USER] are familiar with D&D 4e. Your characterizations about it are incorrect. The way 5e has Shadowfell and Feywild, is the way 4e generally has it. The Shadowfell as a destination of souls is the same in 4e and 5e. In 4e, it is possible for souls to go to an Astral Dominion in the afterlife, but souls typically go to the underworld, namely Shadowfell. Likewise, 5e Shadowfell is the realm of these Undead souls. The only meaningful shifts are, the 5e Border Ethereal is (mostly?) neutral ether, rather than Shadow, and some of the 5e Dominions correlate with a binary alignment grid. (4e had made alignment linear but 4e players widely disregarded this, both those who prefer the alignment quadrants and those who remove alignment from the game.) I agree the changes 4e made to the cosmology have earlier presidents. This is part of the 4e design goal to "consolidate" similarities and enhance "salient" differences. This is how evolution happens: repetition and variation. There are both real changes and real continuity. Same goes for 5e. It is plainly a continuation of the 4e cosmology, rather than a return to a 3e cosmology. At the same time, it reintroduces some elements from 3e that 4e omitted. The result is a new evolution of the cosmology. [/QUOTE]
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