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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9589021" data-attributes="member: 7030563">It is not as much, but I think it is incorrect to say it is not close, especially at high levels.Without feats a 10th level Bladesinger in bladesong using Green Flame Blade is looking at 3d8+10 (23.5) to one target and 1d8+5 (9.5) to another, so nomimally 33 damageA Raging Zealot 10th levle Barbarian using a 2d6 weapon is doing 5d6+23 or nominally 40.5&nbsp; damageAt 18th level a Bladesinger is doing 6d8+15 (42) to one target and 3d8+5 (18.5) to another (starting round 2) and a Zealot is doing 5d6+31 (starting on Round 1).&nbsp; So here it is 60.5 for the Bladesinger and 48.5 for the Barbarian.When it comes to Ranged attacks the Bladesinger throwing Javelins (with one Truestrike) is going to be close to the Barbarian throwing Javelins as well following the same trend as above.I will say the Barbarian's damage is more reliable, mostly because&nbsp; he does not need another enemy within 5 feet to cash it all in, and he has weapon masteries but even so I would say the Bladesinger is &quot;coming close&quot;Note this uses the newest UA Bladesinger.I would als say though that damage does not tell the whole story and Bladesinger designed for melee and using spells specifically to facilitate that is going to be more durable.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9589021, member: 7030563"] It is not as much, but I think it is incorrect to say it is not close, especially at high levels. Without feats a 10th level Bladesinger in bladesong using Green Flame Blade is looking at 3d8+10 (23.5) to one target and 1d8+5 (9.5) to another, so nomimally 33 damage A Raging Zealot 10th levle Barbarian using a 2d6 weapon is doing 5d6+23 or nominally 40.5 damage At 18th level a Bladesinger is doing 6d8+15 (42) to one target and 3d8+5 (18.5) to another (starting round 2) and a Zealot is doing 5d6+31 (starting on Round 1). So here it is 60.5 for the Bladesinger and 48.5 for the Barbarian. When it comes to Ranged attacks the Bladesinger throwing Javelins (with one Truestrike) is going to be close to the Barbarian throwing Javelins as well following the same trend as above. I will say the Barbarian's damage is more reliable, mostly because he does not need another enemy within 5 feet to cash it all in, and he has weapon masteries but even so I would say the Bladesinger is "coming close" Note this uses the newest UA Bladesinger. I would als say though that damage does not tell the whole story and Bladesinger designed for melee and using spells specifically to facilitate that is going to be more durable. [/QUOTE]

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