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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9592866" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>That, unfortunately, is the thing some people cannot accept.</p><p></p><p>While a rare few people really do have a convince-able position on this...I find that the vast majority of people fall into two camps. "HP <em>must</em> be physically-rooted", often (semi-derogatorily) called "Meat Points" fans, and "HP <em>cannot</em> be solely physically-rooted", sometimes called "Luck Points" or various other things. For a less prejudicial term for each, I'll say Physicalists and Amalgamists; the Physicalist position is that every single point of HP is a physical <em>something</em> in a given entity, while Amalgamists see it as a non-specific mix of physical and non-physical things, where no individual hit point can be said to be any particular thing in absolute.</p><p></p><p>I have yet to meet a single Physicalist who is even remotely interested in finding common ground--mostly because the position is almost entirely defined by rejecting the possibility of anything but a physical root for every single hit point. I have seen a handful of people who, for lack of a better term, try to split the difference. Someone here on ENWorld (I fear I forget whom) basically argued that there had to be some inherent kernel that corresponded to the Physicalist position, but that all other parts were perfectly compatible with the Amalgamist position. They were a surprising and refreshing break from what I usually see from folks who hold a Physicalist position, since they were genuinely participating <em>to discern</em>, not to somehow prove that no, the Amalgamist position is simply incorrect, so everyone should be a Physicalist like them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9592866, member: 6790260"] That, unfortunately, is the thing some people cannot accept. While a rare few people really do have a convince-able position on this...I find that the vast majority of people fall into two camps. "HP [I]must[/I] be physically-rooted", often (semi-derogatorily) called "Meat Points" fans, and "HP [I]cannot[/I] be solely physically-rooted", sometimes called "Luck Points" or various other things. For a less prejudicial term for each, I'll say Physicalists and Amalgamists; the Physicalist position is that every single point of HP is a physical [I]something[/I] in a given entity, while Amalgamists see it as a non-specific mix of physical and non-physical things, where no individual hit point can be said to be any particular thing in absolute. I have yet to meet a single Physicalist who is even remotely interested in finding common ground--mostly because the position is almost entirely defined by rejecting the possibility of anything but a physical root for every single hit point. I have seen a handful of people who, for lack of a better term, try to split the difference. Someone here on ENWorld (I fear I forget whom) basically argued that there had to be some inherent kernel that corresponded to the Physicalist position, but that all other parts were perfectly compatible with the Amalgamist position. They were a surprising and refreshing break from what I usually see from folks who hold a Physicalist position, since they were genuinely participating [I]to discern[/I], not to somehow prove that no, the Amalgamist position is simply incorrect, so everyone should be a Physicalist like them. [/QUOTE]
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