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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lord Twig" data-source="post: 9594969" data-attributes="member: 31754">I guess some people just can't imagine that something not explicitaly called magic could be magic. I don't have that problem. It's pretty easy actually.I was starting to look at the good of 4e, but now I am starting to not like it all over again. I try to explain what I don't like and why, and I am insulted as being unimaginative.Partial success! That is a great way to frame it. I actually like the idea of partial success. Along with success, critical success, and failure. Now failure sucks, but do you know what is worse? Never failing. It's (imho) boring.Well, you did say "virtually everyone." I don't know how you get to that determination. I would say "some" or maybe even "many." But seems like you are trying to minimize the people who disagree with you.</blockquote>