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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 9598374" data-attributes="member: 22779">2 hp/level is not really the big difference you seem to think it is.&nbsp; Lessee - second wind, AT MOST, grants me 5 more attacks.&nbsp; A 5th level caster can easily make 10 attacks in a single round.&nbsp;&nbsp; Why does a fighter have to wait fifteen levels to be equal to do what a 5th level caster can?And note, like I said, this example of a caster is the bare minimum of what a caster can do.&nbsp; This is FAR weaker than an actual caster.&nbsp; By miles.&nbsp; But, the notion that a fighter could do what a massively nerfed sorcerer could do is &quot;making them sorcerers&quot; pretty much explains why fighter types cannot EVER be allowed any sort of parity.Also explains why, in 10 years of 5e D&amp;D, I've still yet to see a single classed fighter beyond, say 5th level.&nbsp; Not once.&nbsp; Always paired up with caster classes.&nbsp; I dunno who is playing all these fighters but it sure isn't the groups that I play with.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 9598374, member: 22779"] 2 hp/level is not really the big difference you seem to think it is. Lessee - second wind, AT MOST, grants me 5 more attacks. A 5th level caster can easily make 10 attacks in a single round. Why does a fighter have to wait fifteen levels to be equal to do what a 5th level caster can? And note, like I said, this example of a caster is the bare minimum of what a caster can do. This is FAR weaker than an actual caster. By miles. But, the notion that a fighter could do what a massively nerfed sorcerer could do is "making them sorcerers" pretty much explains why fighter types cannot EVER be allowed any sort of parity. Also explains why, in 10 years of 5e D&D, I've still yet to see a single classed fighter beyond, say 5th level. Not once. Always paired up with caster classes. I dunno who is playing all these fighters but it sure isn't the groups that I play with. [/QUOTE]

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