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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 9601078" data-attributes="member: 6716779">Well as I said it's subjective.  Current one tentatively reminds me a bit of the greatest fighters I've seen in D&D. 2E ones. Mundane but with magical equipment .  Kill a lich, marilith, dragon one after the other solo 1 round each. Level 13/14. Weapon specialization, good AC, good saves hard to stop. Mundane fighter doesn't have to suck. Modern design has made them suck. 3.0 screwed them over, 4E anticipated damage better defenders, 5E massive holes on saving throws (DC 20 fear you suck).  5.5 though it's a hmmmn maybe the second coming. ECM03 claimed indomitable  was OP I'm thinking finally it's about time. I have no issue with fighters making saves 75-95% of the time. Wish monsters could do that.</blockquote>