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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nijay" data-source="post: 9643939" data-attributes="member: 6944789">I kind of hate these 2024 changes from several angles, especially when I look at all the changes to the Werewolf. First is that a silvered weapon is now a magic weapon. This information is hid away from players in the DMG instead of being in the PHB. How much does it cost to get a silvered weapon? Well, I guess it's a common magic item. You might be able to take an existing weapon and craft a silvered weapon from it for 50gp (uh, how much silver is going on this thing?) sometimes using a  tool that isn't related to smithing, metallurgy, or alchemy. Or players might buy one whole for 100gp per the 2024 DMG, or buy it for 20-70GP per Xanathar's Guide - but how much to pay an NPC to silver an existing weapon? Which NPC? Are blacksmiths just casually making magic weapons now? No, an arcana check is needed. Who will pass an arcana check and do the alchemical process? An alchemist or sage or artificer, or arcane blacksmith, I guess?2014 PHB:2024 DMG: Second, if you are fighting an enemy, it is only going to matter a low percentage of the time, because the only bonus is when you roll a crit. Most fights would not even know the difference between a silvered weapon or standard. Third, the abstracted ammunition. In 2014 you got 10 pieces of ammunition. In 2024, it seems that all ammunition fired from a silvered firearm is considered magic - seemingly meaning that ammunition fired from a silvered weapon is considered silvered. So I would go to the extreme and say I guess you can just fire a silvered weapon and collect silvered ammunition indefinitely for an infinite money glitch. Even without going to the extreme, this really takes away the trope of scarce ammunition. You've found three silvered arrows in the murdered hunter's quiver...nope, now you've found a silvered bow and all your arrows are effectively silvered now.Fourth, I still hate the idea of layering silvered weapons and magic weapons. It was never useful before, right, as magic weapons bypassed resistance and would be redundant? Silvered weapons were an in-between of standard and magical weapons. But now you have a separate mechanic for a silvered weapon, and nothing really arguing against silvering a magic weapon or having silvered versions of magic weapons. Because the language is "An alchemical process has bonded silver to this magic weapon." This reads as if you can bond silver to any magic weapon. This can lead to all sorts of dumb stuff like does it even work to silver a vorpal sword, does a silvered sun sword still emit light.  Fifth, the werewolf now has a long bow and shapeshifting is now a bonus action. So what is stopping them from kiting your champion with a silvered sword until you die? (Yes, the equipment doesn't transform with them, but I bet a medium wolf could carry the bow and quiver in its jaws.) At best, a silvered melee weapon / magic weapon looses effectiveness in an encounter that seems likely to start off ranged.</blockquote>

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