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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jgsugden" data-source="post: 9644110" data-attributes="member: 2629">Unless, you know, you followed the guidelines as I discussed and PCs did not get more than intended magic weapons.As discussed, this is not an opinion situation.  You can't say that it does not work as an opinion when there is objective proof that it can, does, and has worked well for decades.  That is like saying that the earth is flat in your opinion.  As with so much of D&D - it works well when utilized as intended.  The designers talked about these mechanics and about how they are intended.  What I describe is 100% the intent, and as mentioned, there is 100% proof that it can work well.You claim it does not work, and then describe a way in which you can use it quite well - giving them access to the tool they need as part of the adventure after they first encounter the challenge.  Example: 3rd level PCs.  No magic weapons.  They are traveling an hear screams from a nearby farm house.  They investigate and learn that a half human / half hound type creature dragged off one of the children after putting it to sleep.  The PCs make some knowledge rolls and know it is a Jackalwere.  The father in the house grabbed his grandfather's axe and ran after the monster moments ago ... and if the PCs follow they'll find the father deceased and the special axe lying at the ground by the beast - which has a wound that does not appear to be healing.  The PCs have to go right at the beast to get the weapon (and use spells, etc...)</blockquote>

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