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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 9484400" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>I don't know about the longer casting time part. But for the rest like a enspelled item, I disagree, I think that's settled now in the DMG. I think he's right, there is an action involved. I don't think there is much room in the rules to support that position any more but happy to see text from the DMG to change my mind. Looks like <strong>you </strong>don't cast the spell. Someone else did long ago when making the item, it has a fixed DC and level and other things unrelated to you, and you're not casting and the spell the item is releasing the spell that had been cast into it by the creator. You just need a magic action to activate the item, like almost all other magic items, which releases the spell.</p><p></p><p>I think there was a reasonable dispute with just the PHB rules. But now that we're seeing the DMG rules, I just don't think there is. I think he's reading it correctly. But if you're looking at the new DMG rules and coming to a different conclusion, happy to see a quote.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 9484400, member: 2525"] I don't know about the longer casting time part. But for the rest like a enspelled item, I disagree, I think that's settled now in the DMG. I think he's right, there is an action involved. I don't think there is much room in the rules to support that position any more but happy to see text from the DMG to change my mind. Looks like [B]you [/B]don't cast the spell. Someone else did long ago when making the item, it has a fixed DC and level and other things unrelated to you, and you're not casting and the spell the item is releasing the spell that had been cast into it by the creator. You just need a magic action to activate the item, like almost all other magic items, which releases the spell. I think there was a reasonable dispute with just the PHB rules. But now that we're seeing the DMG rules, I just don't think there is. I think he's reading it correctly. But if you're looking at the new DMG rules and coming to a different conclusion, happy to see a quote. [/QUOTE]
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