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<blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 9495518" data-attributes="member: 83242">A quick guide, IMO, just needs to give you a useful AC, HP, attack bonus, and damage.&nbsp; Special and interesting features will be siloed to a more robust monster builder IMO. They have that in the 2014 DMG, but the issue with the 2014 Monsters Stats by CR table is the balance of those 4 factors was skewed to produce poor results if you just used the table (and not all the modifiers of the complex monster creation rules), so it is not very useful as a quick reference. This could be mostly solved by rebalancing that table, while still keeping the detailed adjustments of the full monster creation rules.I think the 2014 DMG monster creation rules work well. I like them a lot and have created hundreds of custom monsters with them. Though they could be simplified to make them more clear and straightforward.&nbsp; However, all I really want updated are:<ol>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">Updated math for the Monster Stats by CR table (based on previews the high CR math has changed)</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">An updated &quot;Monster Features&quot; table with new features introduced after the 2014 DMG/MM</li>
</ol></blockquote>

[QUOTE="dave2008, post: 9495518, member: 83242"] A quick guide, IMO, just needs to give you a [U]useful[/U] AC, HP, attack bonus, and damage. Special and interesting features will be siloed to a more robust monster builder IMO. They have that in the 2014 DMG, but the issue with the 2014 Monsters Stats by CR table is the balance of those 4 factors was skewed to produce poor results if you just used the table (and not all the modifiers of the complex monster creation rules), so it [U]is not very useful as a quick reference[/U]. This could be mostly solved by rebalancing that table, while still keeping the detailed adjustments of the full monster creation rules. I think the 2014 DMG monster creation rules work well. I like them a lot and have created hundreds of custom monsters with them. Though they could be simplified to make them more clear and straightforward. However, all I really want updated are: [LIST=1] [*]Updated math for the Monster Stats by CR table (based on previews the high CR math has changed) [*]An updated "Monster Features" table with new features introduced after the 2014 DMG/MM [/LIST] [/QUOTE]

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