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<blockquote data-quote="aco175" data-source="post: 9212760" data-attributes="member: 27385">I still find that items have a role to play in the game.&nbsp; Mostly since players love them.&nbsp; My table gets all excited if I say there is a random item and someone rolls on the chart to see what it is.&nbsp; There is a big difference between getting a chest of gold and a bag of gold plus a random goodie.&nbsp; I would be more in favor of an alternative where PCs skip the +2/+1 or extra feat at creation and the DM play a more magic campaign.&nbsp; It does seem that the power creep in the game now is pushing items out further.&nbsp; I know the argument is that it is more player facing choices and his PC over the DM having control and playing with the dials of PC choices.&nbsp; I get that, but also think that items are a bigger part of the game than some think- heck they just came out with a book telling everyone how to use one of the biggest campaign breaking items in the game.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="aco175, post: 9212760, member: 27385"] I still find that items have a role to play in the game. Mostly since players love them. My table gets all excited if I say there is a random item and someone rolls on the chart to see what it is. There is a big difference between getting a chest of gold and a bag of gold plus a random goodie. I would be more in favor of an alternative where PCs skip the +2/+1 or extra feat at creation and the DM play a more magic campaign. It does seem that the power creep in the game now is pushing items out further. I know the argument is that it is more player facing choices and his PC over the DM having control and playing with the dials of PC choices. I get that, but also think that items are a bigger part of the game than some think- heck they just came out with a book telling everyone how to use one of the biggest campaign breaking items in the game. [/QUOTE]

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