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<blockquote data-quote="James Gasik" data-source="post: 9225619" data-attributes="member: 6877472"><p>So I have a DM who adores Comeliness. He doesn't really use the rules for it, as near as I can tell, it's more a convenient shorthand for letting a player know how attractive a given character is. Of course, he tends to hand out high Comeliness to NPC's like crazy, lol- I have an Elven Enchanter with a Comeliness of 20 and it's surprising how often she encounters NPC's with greater Comeliness, lol.</p><p></p><p>Charisma =/= Comeliness (though they are easily conflated), but it is a bit odd that you can be as hot (or not) as you want to be, and the game doesn't track this at all. Despite telling us things like:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]340951[/ATTACH]</p><p>I mean, ok, so Elves are hot. What does that mean? Nothing (or everything). It's not a trait that Elves pay anything for if it does anything, lol. It has no mechanical bearing. It just is.</p><p></p><p>And yet, as much as we hate to admit it, we humans are naturally predisposed towards people we see as attractive (at least until they do something to offset that predisposition- and sometimes not even then!).</p><p></p><p>Yet in D&D, this has no bearing on anything by RAW- it's up to the individual DM to decide if it matters or not (and boy, have I seen ruffled feathers as a result!).</p><p></p><p>And I can understand why- standards of beauty are hotly debated, and WotC making any definitive statements about such things (outside of Elves) would go over about as well as strictly defining Alignment, lol.</p><p></p><p>That having been said, it would be nice if attractiveness (or lack thereof) meant something, but I don't see how you can rate physical beauty in any way that won't offend someone.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="James Gasik, post: 9225619, member: 6877472"] So I have a DM who adores Comeliness. He doesn't really use the rules for it, as near as I can tell, it's more a convenient shorthand for letting a player know how attractive a given character is. Of course, he tends to hand out high Comeliness to NPC's like crazy, lol- I have an Elven Enchanter with a Comeliness of 20 and it's surprising how often she encounters NPC's with greater Comeliness, lol. Charisma =/= Comeliness (though they are easily conflated), but it is a bit odd that you can be as hot (or not) as you want to be, and the game doesn't track this at all. Despite telling us things like: [ATTACH type="full"]340951[/ATTACH] I mean, ok, so Elves are hot. What does that mean? Nothing (or everything). It's not a trait that Elves pay anything for if it does anything, lol. It has no mechanical bearing. It just is. And yet, as much as we hate to admit it, we humans are naturally predisposed towards people we see as attractive (at least until they do something to offset that predisposition- and sometimes not even then!). Yet in D&D, this has no bearing on anything by RAW- it's up to the individual DM to decide if it matters or not (and boy, have I seen ruffled feathers as a result!). And I can understand why- standards of beauty are hotly debated, and WotC making any definitive statements about such things (outside of Elves) would go over about as well as strictly defining Alignment, lol. That having been said, it would be nice if attractiveness (or lack thereof) meant something, but I don't see how you can rate physical beauty in any way that won't offend someone. [/QUOTE]
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