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<blockquote data-quote="SteveC" data-source="post: 9392795" data-attributes="member: 9053">As someone playing a Bladesinger, I don't think it needs work. Shield is a problem for classes that already have super high ACs, where it can make them virtually unhittable. My Sword Bard with a Hexblade Dip is base AC 18 at level 7. And then I do a Blade Flourish for an extra D8 AC. If I get hit on top of that, I can use Shield.And the funny thing is, the character isn't taking over the campaign. Yes, I have a really high AC but I'm also setting up flanking positions for my group, so all of them can still be attacked. Once bad guys see me at full defense, they just don't even go after me anymore, so combat has a flow where I get attacked at the start and then not so much.For the Bladesinger: if you're playing one and just wading into combat, you're not playing to the class' strengths. You don't do anywhere near the damage of a character who's designed to do that from the start. For that character, I get into melee combat when I have to concentrate on a spell. So if I have Slow or Hypnotic Pattern up, I can still do a decent job in combat, but it's nowhere near what other characters built around damage can do.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="SteveC, post: 9392795, member: 9053"] As someone playing a Bladesinger, I don't think it needs work. Shield is a problem for classes that already have super high ACs, where it can make them virtually unhittable. My Sword Bard with a Hexblade Dip is base AC 18 at level 7. And then I do a Blade Flourish for an extra D8 AC. If I get hit on top of that, I can use Shield. And the funny thing is, the character isn't taking over the campaign. Yes, I have a really high AC but I'm also setting up flanking positions for my group, so all of them can still be attacked. Once bad guys see me at full defense, they just don't even go after me anymore, so combat has a flow where I get attacked at the start and then not so much. For the Bladesinger: if you're playing one and just wading into combat, you're not playing to the class' strengths. You don't do anywhere near the damage of a character who's designed to do that from the start. For that character, I get into melee combat when I have to concentrate on a spell. So if I have Slow or Hypnotic Pattern up, I can still do a [I]decent [/I]job in combat, but it's nowhere near what other characters built around damage can do. [/QUOTE]

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