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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9381987" data-attributes="member: 18">Honest question, where are they man?I think this is a key problem here. You guys have apparently seen tons of art that isn't in any threads, and no-one seems to have posted around in the D&D community generally. I don't doubt you have seen it, but where is it? Is it briefly seen in the incredibly long videos WotC puts out, which are largely middle-aged men with beards talking to each other lol? Has anyone got some timestamps? I ask mainly because I couldn't even find one of the art pieces people were talking about being in the Barbarian video, despite scanning back and forwards through it.Yeah I think there is an element of that. Twee is definitely negative in the UK too but I think it's more solidly understood over here. Cutesy and twee aren't the same thing - you have to get aggressively saccharine. The dragon with babies of every colour dragon is that - esp. as the baby dragons don't even look good or like young creatures, they just look like cartoon cute characters (and it defies lore because cats and dogs are living together as it were). Whereas the dwarf baked good session seems to be on the correct side of the line, but just feels a bit weak because it's clearly done by someone who has never even thought about what it's like to work in a forge, or like how much soot and sweat and poisonous materials would be around. It is not a place to eat on the job! The proto-cowboy Mexican-vibes orc image I kind of want to like, but I feel it's just not a great piece because weird to say but it's... not imaginative enough - it's too literally "orcs dressed up in very slightly fantasy-ized 1800s Mexican-inspired dress". But I feel compelled to defend it because every horrific chud on Twitter is trying to concern-troll about how it's "racist" to portray orcs like this so, which is obvious nonsense they don't even believe! So I will say, it is okay, just maybe try a little harder to fantasy-ize things next time! (I do have similar criticisms of a lot of older D&D pieces for likewise being too direct in their inspiration, let's be clear this is something that's been making me frown for well over 30 years, well before WotC!).</blockquote>

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