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<blockquote data-quote="tglassy" data-source="post: 9380783" data-attributes="member: 6855204">I am a huge fan of these changes.&nbsp; The Paladin was the Mary Sue of classes.&nbsp; All armor, all weapons, fighting style, spells, spell-less healing, Burst Damage like crazy, a huge boost to not only their own saves but the entire party's saves, Auras that make them immune to so much...like, people say &quot;Oh they can't do ranged&quot;, but they can just grab a darn bow and shoot.&nbsp; Big woop.&nbsp; I even like the Bonus Action cost.&nbsp; Because a Divine Smite was NEVER 1d8+1d8 per spell level.&nbsp; It was 2d8+2d8 per spell level.&nbsp; Because you ALWAYS used it on a Crit.&nbsp; Seriously.&nbsp; 12d8 with a 5th lvl spell slot.&nbsp; And you could do that up to three times a round.&nbsp; I've literally had one of my players, playing a paladin, crit three times in a row on the second round of combat with a Balor.&nbsp; Killed the thing all by himself.&nbsp; AND LOOKED GOOD DOING IT.&nbsp; Now, it costs a Bonus Action.&nbsp; Used up your bonus action already and critted?&nbsp; Oh well.&nbsp; Maybe next time.&nbsp; Besides, the Paladin is now more efficient than ever!&nbsp; So many of their skills are quicker, easier to use or more useful.&nbsp; So yes, you will stil outshine all the other players and have perfect teeth while doing it.&nbsp; You just can't do 200+HP worth of damage in a single round.&nbsp; I'm sorry.&nbsp; I'll cry you a river after I get over weeping if they wind up taking away the Warlock's 3rd attack.&nbsp; Like seriously.&nbsp; The Warlock already has Eldritch Blast, which is BETTER than a Fighter with a Bow.&nbsp; IT GETS 4 ATTACKS BEFORE THE FIGHTER DOES.&nbsp; Why would adding a third attack on a melee weapon really be that bad?&nbsp; it's not like the Warlock gets Heavy Armor.&nbsp; Or even a half compliment of spell slots.&nbsp; Or random auras that increase saving throw and make you immune to just about every kind of danger out there.&nbsp; Or a free steed that now scales with spell slot.&nbsp; Sorry.&nbsp; Talking about the Paladin again.&nbsp; Though, I guess the Celestial Warlock gets a pseudo Lay on Hands, and Eldritch Smite lets them Smite...if they had the spell slots for it!&nbsp; Like, seriously.&nbsp; They only GET two.&nbsp; They'd have to be REALLY lucky to both Crit AND have a Spell Slot AND have a Bonus Action available to really take advantage of it.&nbsp; Give Warlocks more love.&nbsp; If you had, maybe they wouldn't have sold their souls to begin with.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tglassy, post: 9380783, member: 6855204"] I am a huge fan of these changes. The Paladin was the Mary Sue of classes. All armor, all weapons, fighting style, spells, spell-less healing, Burst Damage like crazy, a huge boost to not only their own saves but the entire party's saves, Auras that make them immune to so much...like, people say "Oh they can't do ranged", but they can just grab a darn bow and shoot. Big woop. I even like the Bonus Action cost. Because a Divine Smite was NEVER 1d8+1d8 per spell level. It was 2d8+2d8 per spell level. Because you ALWAYS used it on a Crit. Seriously. 12d8 with a 5th lvl spell slot. And you could do that up to three times a round. I've literally had one of my players, playing a paladin, crit three times in a row on the second round of combat with a Balor. Killed the thing all by himself. AND LOOKED GOOD DOING IT. Now, it costs a Bonus Action. Used up your bonus action already and critted? Oh well. Maybe next time. Besides, the Paladin is now more efficient than ever! So many of their skills are quicker, easier to use or more useful. So yes, you will stil outshine all the other players and have perfect teeth while doing it. You just can't do 200+HP worth of damage in a single round. I'm sorry. I'll cry you a river after I get over weeping if they wind up taking away the Warlock's 3rd attack. Like seriously. The Warlock already has Eldritch Blast, which is BETTER than a Fighter with a Bow. IT GETS 4 ATTACKS BEFORE THE FIGHTER DOES. Why would adding a third attack on a melee weapon really be that bad? it's not like the Warlock gets Heavy Armor. Or even a half compliment of spell slots. Or random auras that increase saving throw and make you immune to just about every kind of danger out there. Or a free steed that now scales with spell slot. Sorry. Talking about the Paladin again. Though, I guess the Celestial Warlock gets a pseudo Lay on Hands, and Eldritch Smite lets them Smite...if they had the spell slots for it! Like, seriously. They only GET two. They'd have to be REALLY lucky to both Crit AND have a Spell Slot AND have a Bonus Action available to really take advantage of it. Give Warlocks more love. If you had, maybe they wouldn't have sold their souls to begin with. [/QUOTE]

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