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<blockquote data-quote="Nadan" data-source="post: 9383614" data-attributes="member: 6875138"><p>Let's do a level by level break down for a bladesinger with MI (pal) and a paladin in term of smite effectiveness shall we? I will skip Feat level.</p><p>Lv.1 to 2 wizards really shouldn't be near at front, paladin already start smiting</p><p>Lv.3 bladesinger can approach front now, but they need use first turn's BA for bladesong so no first turn smite, paladin don't have this problem as devotion and vengeance can use their feature without action cost. Bladesinger can smite with Lv.2 slot.</p><p>Lv.5 Paladin have extra attack, higher chance to land smite now, even highter if doing dex duel-wield build, thanks the nick mastery. Bladesinger can smite with lv.3 slot now but they really shouldn't do that cause it just extra 1d8 than Lv.2 slot.</p><p>Lv.6 Bladesinger have extra attack but no first turn smite still, can use BB or GFB.</p><p>Lv.7 Bladesinger have Lv.4 slot now.</p><p>Lv.9 Bladesinger have Lv.5 slot now, but you only have 1 slot. Paladin got Lv.3 slot now</p><p>Lv.10 Both got trait not relate to smite, bladesinger got second Lv.5 slot</p><p>Lv.11 Bladesinger got Lv.6 slot but you really shouldn't blow it on smite. Paladin got extra 1d8 per hit, higher dmg per hit using smite than bladesinger. Bladesinger need use 1 level higher slot to have same dmg.</p><p></p><p>I think this is enough, you can see when it come to smite is bladesinger really better at smite than paladin? I don't think so, more low level slot don't really help it when you got limited to 1 smite per round. Using higher slot to smite can boost dmg up a little bit but it is 1d8 per slot, not really a good trade.</p><p>And bladesinger need use first turn's BA for bladesong, or they will burn their slot on Shield very quickly cause you need melee attack to have smite.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nadan, post: 9383614, member: 6875138"] Let's do a level by level break down for a bladesinger with MI (pal) and a paladin in term of smite effectiveness shall we? I will skip Feat level. Lv.1 to 2 wizards really shouldn't be near at front, paladin already start smiting Lv.3 bladesinger can approach front now, but they need use first turn's BA for bladesong so no first turn smite, paladin don't have this problem as devotion and vengeance can use their feature without action cost. Bladesinger can smite with Lv.2 slot. Lv.5 Paladin have extra attack, higher chance to land smite now, even highter if doing dex duel-wield build, thanks the nick mastery. Bladesinger can smite with lv.3 slot now but they really shouldn't do that cause it just extra 1d8 than Lv.2 slot. Lv.6 Bladesinger have extra attack but no first turn smite still, can use BB or GFB. Lv.7 Bladesinger have Lv.4 slot now. Lv.9 Bladesinger have Lv.5 slot now, but you only have 1 slot. Paladin got Lv.3 slot now Lv.10 Both got trait not relate to smite, bladesinger got second Lv.5 slot Lv.11 Bladesinger got Lv.6 slot but you really shouldn't blow it on smite. Paladin got extra 1d8 per hit, higher dmg per hit using smite than bladesinger. Bladesinger need use 1 level higher slot to have same dmg. I think this is enough, you can see when it come to smite is bladesinger really better at smite than paladin? I don't think so, more low level slot don't really help it when you got limited to 1 smite per round. Using higher slot to smite can boost dmg up a little bit but it is 1d8 per slot, not really a good trade. And bladesinger need use first turn's BA for bladesong, or they will burn their slot on Shield very quickly cause you need melee attack to have smite. [/QUOTE]
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