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<blockquote data-quote="Scott Christian" data-source="post: 9380811" data-attributes="member: 6901101"><p>I never said <strong>all</strong> bioessentialism arguments were made in bad faith. Second, I said essentialism. People attach themselves to this education philosophy and contort it to a fantasy game. They do this to highlight the negative. They do this as opposed to saying:</p><p></p><p>Simple and straightforward. This is the argument. Should the PHB allow characters to start with a 15 instead of a 16 because of the player's choices during character creation? </p><p></p><p>It has nothing to do with classism, essentialism, etc. It only revolves around those things when someone feels they can't state that their psyche needs to have a 16 at level one. </p><p></p><p>The argument made against this has been stated a million times. Not everyone needs a 16 (clear and evident from the takes on these forums), and many believe there are tradeoffs during character creation that are worthwhile. On the other hand, many believe the opposite: Everyone needs a 16 (clear and evident from the takes on these forums), and many believe that tradeoffs shouldn't exist. </p><p></p><p>(And for the record, we're all against the language used by the 2014 PHB regarding orcs. That, again, is not what this is about. But, I will put money that eventually someone breaks down one of these backgrounds and uses to highlight something awful and negative in order to justify a change in the background's feat or ability bonuses.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scott Christian, post: 9380811, member: 6901101"] I never said [B]all[/B] bioessentialism arguments were made in bad faith. Second, I said essentialism. People attach themselves to this education philosophy and contort it to a fantasy game. They do this to highlight the negative. They do this as opposed to saying: Simple and straightforward. This is the argument. Should the PHB allow characters to start with a 15 instead of a 16 because of the player's choices during character creation? It has nothing to do with classism, essentialism, etc. It only revolves around those things when someone feels they can't state that their psyche needs to have a 16 at level one. The argument made against this has been stated a million times. Not everyone needs a 16 (clear and evident from the takes on these forums), and many believe there are tradeoffs during character creation that are worthwhile. On the other hand, many believe the opposite: Everyone needs a 16 (clear and evident from the takes on these forums), and many believe that tradeoffs shouldn't exist. (And for the record, we're all against the language used by the 2014 PHB regarding orcs. That, again, is not what this is about. But, I will put money that eventually someone breaks down one of these backgrounds and uses to highlight something awful and negative in order to justify a change in the background's feat or ability bonuses.) [/QUOTE]
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