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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Epic Meepo" data-source="post: 9386788" data-attributes="member: 57073">If you'd like to debate players who are upset about not starting with a 16 Intelligence, please reply to one of those players instead replying to me and putting words in my mouth.As it so happens, I'm a DM. The implication that I'm motivated by some sort of player entitlement is misplaced, because I'm not a player. I just happen to think it's asinine that an update to an existing game removes some restrictions on character concepts only to add entirely new restrictions somewhere else. That's one step forward and two steps back.And for the record, if I were a player in a system with 2024-style ability score restrictions, I would accept it if the noble and the urchin-equivalent were both capped at 15 Intelligence instead of 16 Intelligence, even if I was playing one of those characters. I care about those two particular characters having the same starting limit, even if that means a lower score for my character.If the goal of 5e was to create an updated version of 4e, then yes, arbitrarily taking away options that were available in 4e was clearly bad game design.</blockquote>