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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9389433" data-attributes="member: 6801228">No, I am not. I am asking people to stop on the argument that has been going on for the last who knows how many years about demanding something from Ranger's that isn't going to happen. There are things I'm not happy about with the ranger, features that I've pointed out I'm not thrilled about and would change. I've even expressed how I will likely change them in my games. But when the creators open the discussion of the class by saying &quot;Magic is important to this class&quot; and I STILL see people demanding a spell-less variant to this class, from WoTC, instead of just using the dozen of spell-less variants that exist... I get annoyed. We've all had this argument dozens upon dozens of times. No one is going to convince anyone. We didn't do it the last time, or the time before that, or the time before that. This ranger is also not going to be spell-less. They did the reveal. They said magic was core to the Ranger identity.You want to go to the DC20 pages and talk about spell-less ranger? You want to start a new DnD thread demanding spell-less ranger? Fine to both. But this thread is about the ranger revealed in the book. And just like the last one, it has spells. It will continue to have spells. It will likely get more spells. And I don't feel like arguing about whether or not WoTC should have done something they consistently indicated they were never going to do, in every. single. ranger thread.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9389433, member: 6801228"] No, I am not. I am asking people to stop on the argument that has been going on for the last who knows how many years about demanding something from Ranger's that isn't going to happen. There are things I'm not happy about with the ranger, features that I've pointed out I'm not thrilled about and would change. I've even expressed how I will likely change them in my games. But when the creators open the discussion of the class by saying "Magic is important to this class" and I STILL see people demanding a spell-less variant to this class, from WoTC, instead of just using the dozen of spell-less variants that exist... I get annoyed. We've all had this argument dozens upon dozens of times. No one is going to convince anyone. We didn't do it the last time, or the time before that, or the time before that. This ranger is also not going to be spell-less. They did the reveal. They said magic was core to the Ranger identity. You want to go to the DC20 pages and talk about spell-less ranger? You want to start a new DnD thread demanding spell-less ranger? Fine to both. But this thread is about the ranger revealed in the book. And just like the last one, it has spells. It will continue to have spells. It will likely get more spells. And I don't feel like arguing about whether or not WoTC should have done something they consistently indicated they were never going to do, in every. [B][I]single[/I][/B]. ranger thread. [/QUOTE]

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