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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9389697" data-attributes="member: 6801228">But it kind of does feel like when in the Paladin thread everyone was bemoaning that the Paladin is nearly useless as a class because Divine Smite is a spell. Yes, Ranger's get free castings of Hunter's Mark at level 1.... and no other Hunter's Mark Features until level 11. During that time they get... a LOT of stuff. I mean. better combat abilities than the typical bard, maybe better than the Rogue, but also getting the expertise that the Bard and Rogue get, and also getting the higher mobility as well as spellcasting which includes battlefield control, healing, defense, buffing and damage? It does feel a bit odd to say &quot;this class is Hunter's Marl and nothing else&quot; when they have actually gotten decent abilities from every single corner of the game. Yes, at later levels they focus on making a signature spell their go to ability in combat, but the ranger is very full of goodies.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9389697, member: 6801228"] But it kind of does feel like when in the Paladin thread everyone was bemoaning that the Paladin is nearly useless as a class because Divine Smite is a spell. Yes, Ranger's get free castings of Hunter's Mark at level 1.... and no other Hunter's Mark Features until level 11. During that time they get... a LOT of stuff. I mean. better combat abilities than the typical bard, maybe better than the Rogue, but also getting the expertise that the Bard and Rogue get, and also getting the higher mobility as well as spellcasting which includes battlefield control, healing, defense, buffing and damage? It does feel a bit odd to say "this class is Hunter's Marl and nothing else" when they have actually gotten decent abilities from every single corner of the game. Yes, at later levels they focus on making a signature spell their go to ability in combat, but the ranger is very full of goodies. [/QUOTE]

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