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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9391139" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>By your argument "normal hunting activities" would include killing anything in the world, from an Ancient Dragon to the Demon Prince of Undeath. I don't consider those things "normal hunting activities". </p><p></p><p>And, part of this is because people keep saying the Ranger is failing at things "any normal hunter" could do. So that is where my focus is. People seem to think that the Ranger is somehow less of a hunter than their uncle bob who goes out on deer season and catches an 8-point buck. That they are lacking in actual hunting skills. But they aren't. </p><p></p><p>Sure, a wyvern bleeds, so it can die. But it is going to be incredibly hard for a level 5 ranger to take it out with just a bow and arrow. They would be doing about 8.5 damage per hit, so we'll say 17 damage a round. Meaning they need seven rounds of combat to win. They likely have about 44 hp, meaning they will survive... one full round of attacks from the Wyvern, who can deal 46 damage in a single turn. The wyvern also has a fly speed of 80, making them much much faster than the Ranger. </p><p></p><p>How does magic help? Protection from Poison halves the Wyvern's poison damage, and makes them far more likely to succeed on the saving throw, halving it again. Now the Wyvern is only likely to do 28 damage in a single round. We've doubled the chances for the Ranger to survive with that alone. Summon Beast can get a flying companion to harrass the Wyvern, and buy the ranger another round of attacks, while also dealing damage and reducing the time the Ranger needs to win. Fog Cloud can help hide them if the Wyvern is dive bombing them, without having to use their action to hide, buying them more turns, and potentially allowing them to heal with Cure Wounds and survive another round. And if the enemy is weakened enough, then Hunter's Mark can be used to try and burn them down in a final rush to the finish line. </p><p></p><p>So, with magic I just took this from "not going to happen" to "maybe... maybe they could pull this off..."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9391139, member: 6801228"] By your argument "normal hunting activities" would include killing anything in the world, from an Ancient Dragon to the Demon Prince of Undeath. I don't consider those things "normal hunting activities". And, part of this is because people keep saying the Ranger is failing at things "any normal hunter" could do. So that is where my focus is. People seem to think that the Ranger is somehow less of a hunter than their uncle bob who goes out on deer season and catches an 8-point buck. That they are lacking in actual hunting skills. But they aren't. Sure, a wyvern bleeds, so it can die. But it is going to be incredibly hard for a level 5 ranger to take it out with just a bow and arrow. They would be doing about 8.5 damage per hit, so we'll say 17 damage a round. Meaning they need seven rounds of combat to win. They likely have about 44 hp, meaning they will survive... one full round of attacks from the Wyvern, who can deal 46 damage in a single turn. The wyvern also has a fly speed of 80, making them much much faster than the Ranger. How does magic help? Protection from Poison halves the Wyvern's poison damage, and makes them far more likely to succeed on the saving throw, halving it again. Now the Wyvern is only likely to do 28 damage in a single round. We've doubled the chances for the Ranger to survive with that alone. Summon Beast can get a flying companion to harrass the Wyvern, and buy the ranger another round of attacks, while also dealing damage and reducing the time the Ranger needs to win. Fog Cloud can help hide them if the Wyvern is dive bombing them, without having to use their action to hide, buying them more turns, and potentially allowing them to heal with Cure Wounds and survive another round. And if the enemy is weakened enough, then Hunter's Mark can be used to try and burn them down in a final rush to the finish line. So, with magic I just took this from "not going to happen" to "maybe... maybe they could pull this off..." [/QUOTE]
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