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<blockquote data-quote="Undrave" data-source="post: 9387266" data-attributes="member: 7015698"><p>I'm a professional Wizard Hater <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> </p><p></p><p>But I also believe the Wizard deserves to be more than just a spell list. Gotta admit the current Illusionist feels more meaty than the 2014 one, at least. </p><p></p><p>Eh... You don't have to copy the ones from the 2014 PHB word for word. Using the levels from 2014: </p><p></p><p>Lv 2 School Savant and 1 special ability you can activate with limited uses. </p><p>Lv 6 Flat bonus to saving throws or damage (pick when casting), when using your chosen school and you can use your level 2 ability again after casting a slotted spell of your school. Arcane Recovery but only if you casted from your school.</p><p>Level 10 You pick between additional targets or extended range on your school spells. Copying spells of your school is even cheaper now. Maybe an ability to recreate your spell book if something happen to it, as a ribbon. </p><p>Level 14 another new ability, this one is at-will.</p><p></p><p>I think that would be the most 'basic' and flexible Book Wizard subclass you could make, and it would tide over people who would like a certain specialist until future books come out. </p><p></p><p>You add the Warmage who is a combination of Evoker and Abjurer and can switch between both styles very well, then keep the Illusionist as it's something of a semi-famous trope (it was a class of its own after all!) and it has enough tricks to be different from a Illusion Scholar (the Shadow Conjuration tricks for exemple would be unique to the proper Illusionist, and maybe that guy could get some Deception training and even Sleight of Hands). And the fourth can be something new.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Undrave, post: 9387266, member: 7015698"] I'm a professional Wizard Hater :D But I also believe the Wizard deserves to be more than just a spell list. Gotta admit the current Illusionist feels more meaty than the 2014 one, at least. Eh... You don't have to copy the ones from the 2014 PHB word for word. Using the levels from 2014: Lv 2 School Savant and 1 special ability you can activate with limited uses. Lv 6 Flat bonus to saving throws or damage (pick when casting), when using your chosen school and you can use your level 2 ability again after casting a slotted spell of your school. Arcane Recovery but only if you casted from your school. Level 10 You pick between additional targets or extended range on your school spells. Copying spells of your school is even cheaper now. Maybe an ability to recreate your spell book if something happen to it, as a ribbon. Level 14 another new ability, this one is at-will. I think that would be the most 'basic' and flexible Book Wizard subclass you could make, and it would tide over people who would like a certain specialist until future books come out. You add the Warmage who is a combination of Evoker and Abjurer and can switch between both styles very well, then keep the Illusionist as it's something of a semi-famous trope (it was a class of its own after all!) and it has enough tricks to be different from a Illusion Scholar (the Shadow Conjuration tricks for exemple would be unique to the proper Illusionist, and maybe that guy could get some Deception training and even Sleight of Hands). And the fourth can be something new. [/QUOTE]
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