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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9408214" data-attributes="member: 93670">cleric &amp; druid not an issue due to the fact that their spells list has so little overlap with the wizard&nbsp; list.&nbsp; Other arcane casters... That's where it gets into the double dipping for the benefits of both features and extra spells over a hypothetical✩ under a spell list that contains nearly all of the wizard spells... That was discussed earlier, they each attempt to provide the entire power offset in isolation without factoring in the the other so together they overcompensate.✩ &quot;<a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/2024-players-handbook-reveal-new-wizard.704992/post-9406988" target="_blank">Assuming they both prepare the same spells for combat.</a>&quot;We don't know, neither of us has any information.... They might be all kinds of things, but unlike JC's excitement over how much GM's will hate a subclass in videos like the sorcerer video the wizard video didn't get that kind of excitement until talking about doing the cleric video.&nbsp;&nbsp; Without that excitement delving deeper the wizard &amp; spells videos both skipped over spotlighting the goals with changes to rituals&nbsp; Because we don't know anything of substance, rituals can't offer you the substance needed to support your efforts to spotlight them. What we can infer about whatever changes were made to the black box of 2024 rituals is that those changes are not changes that JC &amp; TK were able to get excited about with details that would have provided substance like how much gm's will hate particular sorcerer subclasses or the various at will lockdown abilities.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 9408214, member: 93670"] cleric & druid not an issue due to the fact that their spells list has so little overlap with the wizard list. Other arcane casters... That's where it gets into the double dipping for the benefits of both features [I]and[/I] extra spells over a hypothetical✩ under a spell list that contains nearly all of the wizard spells... That was discussed earlier, they each attempt to provide the entire power offset in isolation without factoring in the the other so together they overcompensate. ✩ "[URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/2024-players-handbook-reveal-new-wizard.704992/post-9406988']Assuming they both prepare the same spells for combat.[/URL]" We don't know, neither of us has [I]any[/I] information.... They [I]might[/I] be all kinds of things, but unlike JC's excitement over how much GM's will hate a subclass in videos like the sorcerer video the wizard video didn't get that kind of excitement until talking about doing the cleric video. Without that excitement delving deeper the wizard & spells videos both skipped over spotlighting the goals with changes to rituals Because we don't know [I]anything[/I] of substance, rituals can't offer you the substance needed to support your efforts to spotlight them. What we can infer about whatever changes were made to the black box of 2024 rituals is that those changes are not changes that JC & TK were able to get excited about with details that would have provided substance like how much gm's will hate particular sorcerer subclasses or the various at will lockdown abilities. [/QUOTE]

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