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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 9409045" data-attributes="member: 87792">What we haven't seen is how much better the wizard spells are than the sorcerer spells. Also the sorcerer doesn't have that many spare slots, especially as the subclass only helps with L1-5 spells. To take one example of where the Wizard has a huge advantage, we can look at True Polymorph. Cast on the day it's a mid spell; it's a &quot;turn the foe into a frog&quot; or a souped up polymorph. Meanwhile if you get to cast it the previous day you get to turn your friend (or yourself) into an adult red dragon permanently. And then on the day you're adventuring you get to not prepare that spell as a wizard, while you've spent the past week turning your entire party into a flight of dragons; you have something like Time Stop instead. Meanwhile sorcerers can't pull this nonsense (or the Tasha's Bubbling Cauldron the previous night nonsense) as not only don't they have that many slots but True Polymorph isn't even on their list. So I'd hardly say that the sorcerer is reigning supreme against a party where everyone is an adult dragon thanks to the wizard.Signature spell and spell mastery have been heavily nerfed of course. They have to be spells that take an action, so no more Unlimited Silvery Barbs or Unlimited Misty Step.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 9409045, member: 87792"] What we haven't seen is [I]how much better the wizard spells are than the sorcerer spells[/I]. Also the sorcerer doesn't have that many spare slots, especially as the subclass only helps with L1-5 spells. To take one example of where the Wizard has a huge advantage, we can look at True Polymorph. Cast on the day it's a mid spell; it's a "turn the foe into a frog" or a souped up polymorph. Meanwhile if you get to cast it the previous day you get to turn your friend (or yourself) into an adult red dragon permanently. And then on the day you're adventuring you get to not prepare that spell as a wizard, while you've spent the past week turning your entire party into a flight of dragons; you have something like Time Stop instead. Meanwhile sorcerers can't pull this nonsense (or the Tasha's Bubbling Cauldron the previous night nonsense) as not only don't they have that many slots but True Polymorph isn't even on their list. So I'd hardly say that the sorcerer is reigning supreme against a party where everyone is an adult dragon thanks to the wizard. Signature spell and spell mastery have been heavily nerfed of course. They have to be spells that take an action, so no more Unlimited Silvery Barbs or Unlimited Misty Step. [/QUOTE]

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