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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ashrym" data-source="post: 9409829" data-attributes="member: 6750235">That's why people keep pointing to what wizards get without adding more by scribing spells.  It's from leveling up.  Any spells added is still better than other classes adding no spells by finding them and spending a cheap resource like gold.You keep neglecting to add those details, however.  Your posts look like double-speak with no actual information.   ;-)The issue is sorcery points are a limited resource and the sorcerer only has a couple of metamagic options to select at that point.  Metamagic is great and the reason to play a sorcerer, but it's still a limited resource competing with the wizards greater spell selection and rituals and arcane recovery.Careful spell comes from a limited selection of metamagic options and costs a limited resource as well.  The sorcerer also has less spell selection prepped to take advantage of the larger list of spells to which careful spell can be applied.I'd have to ask how the bard would be able to do this.  The bard has a huge list of options that isn't actualized because of the limited number of spells available for them to prep.  If it truly were only certain spells this might work in the bards' favor but bards cannot apply metamagic like sorcerers can and don't have wizard subclass enhancements to their spells and cannot recover spell slots like other arcane casters.Bards have a great selection from which to choose through magical secrets but they're more restricted than other spell casters in almost every way. We're risking getting into a schrodinger sorcerer argument by applying too many metamagic abilities.  Metamagic is great but the number of options and sorcery points are still restrictions.That's an assumption that those bonus spells are actually offsetting the limited selection.  Not being able to select those spells still limits those classes significantly and the base selection is still far more limited for most of them and the spell book without spending extra money is still a superior sideboard of additional spells (and rituals) as has been demonstrated repeatedly in this thread by multiple people.Calling out bards like that is misleading.  While most sorcerer and all warlock subclasses are adding fixed spells to spell preparation bards are not doing so.  Adding 2 at 20th level and 2 spells in a couple of bard colleges is not "many bonus spells" and it's not like dance or valor add any.While I agree that adding spells for the sorcerer or warlock can be helpful, those spell are not selected for preparation.  It's just whatever WotC decided to toss in.  Those spells are also limited to 5th level spells and lower so wizards have much better access to spell levels 6-9; ie the powerful spells.</blockquote>

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