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<blockquote data-quote="Daztur" data-source="post: 9423829" data-attributes="member: 55680">Yup, the main aspect of 4e that I didn't like is coming back while the aspects that I did like about 4e aren't. I much prefer various things that characters can do to be fiction first with the rules trying to put that fiction into effect but with DM rulings being there in order to make sure that the rules conform to the fiction in edge cases, not specific mechanical concepts with a thin veneer of flavor text that can be ignored.Command is the perfect example of that. The fiction is that you say a one word verb and if they can't resist your magical power then they do that verb. The rules go part of the way towards implementing that fiction in terms of gameable rules but DMs often have to fill in the cracks. What if people have wax in their ears? What if they're plugging their ears with their fingers so they can't hear you? What if it's really noisy and its hard to hear your command word? What if they're ignorant peasants and they don't know the fancy vocab words you're throwing around? All of this requires some DM rulings but it makes the fiction feel real and important, not just a &quot;free&quot; bit of flavor text that can be reskinned at-will because it doesn't matter.If you take all of that away and just have a list of specific effects that can be done with Command then you take away a chunk of what makes D&amp;D fun for me personally. I understand that a lot of other people have different perspectives but I'm sad that summon animals doesn't summon animals anymore, that sleep doesn't put people to sleep, and all the rest.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Daztur, post: 9423829, member: 55680"] Yup, the main aspect of 4e that I didn't like is coming back while the aspects that I did like about 4e aren't. I much prefer various things that characters can do to be fiction first with the rules trying to put that fiction into effect but with DM rulings being there in order to make sure that the rules conform to the fiction in edge cases, not specific mechanical concepts with a thin veneer of flavor text that can be ignored. Command is the perfect example of that. The fiction is that you say a one word verb and if they can't resist your magical power then they do that verb. The rules go part of the way towards implementing that fiction in terms of gameable rules but DMs often have to fill in the cracks. What if people have wax in their ears? What if they're plugging their ears with their fingers so they can't hear you? What if it's really noisy and its hard to hear your command word? What if they're ignorant peasants and they don't know the fancy vocab words you're throwing around? All of this requires some DM rulings but it makes the fiction feel real and important, not just a "free" bit of flavor text that can be reskinned at-will because it doesn't matter. If you take all of that away and just have a list of specific effects that can be done with Command then you take away a chunk of what makes D&D fun for me personally. I understand that a lot of other people have different perspectives but I'm sad that summon animals doesn't summon animals anymore, that sleep doesn't put people to sleep, and all the rest. [/QUOTE]

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