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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thommy H-H" data-source="post: 9436731" data-attributes="member: 6797019">Because, at the risk of opening a whole can of worms, there is a pervasive belief among some segments of the community that the DMG guidelines for CR don't work even on their own terms, and various hacks of 5E dispense with them altogether for that reason.In actuality, the DMG guidelines are bang on for 99% of all officially published 5E monsters (dragons are the main exception - their CRs are lower than they should be). A notorious blog post basically misunderstood how the steps were supposed to work, referring solely to the main table in that section completely out of context, and concluding therefore that the numbers were all wrong because no monster in the MM or otherwise fits into those bands. But that's not how that table works - you're meant to start with it and then tweak up and down based on everything else the monster can do.Now, whether those CRs in and of themselves represent what they're meant to is a separate question. High CR monsters are generally weaker than the encounter guidelines imply, and that appears (judging by this new green dragon's CR) to be something that's at least somewhat remedied for 2024, because that thing hits much harder than its 2014 sibling, and the dragons, as I mentioned, were already out of whack for their CRs!So, we don't know quite what the guidance for building monsters in the 2024 DMG will look like. By the 2014 numbers, this dragon should be way up the scale (no pun intended), but it might be that they've tweaked the formula to make higher CR monsters tougher.</blockquote>

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