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<blockquote data-quote="InkTide" data-source="post: 9542331" data-attributes="member: 7048463"><p>I didn't like the new gold at first, but it's grown on me a lot. Everything else looks alright (new brass is eh, too similar to the new bronze but not as good, but I never liked the face shields in either design) to superb (I absolutely adore the new bronze and green dragon designs, and the new silver keeps everything that made the 2014 one my favorite visually)... besides the new white dragon. I <em>really</em> don't like that one.</p><p></p><p>It's always been basically a giant, plucked, extra-frozen chicken, but when they "bulked up" the neck with "scale feathers" (cool idea, I like it) it looks like they ballooned the skull size with it (not cool idea, I don't like it). That's... not how birds or fluffy animals or skulls work. The face is <em>way</em> too wide, not just for the neck, but also the body that has to hold it up. What's extra frustrating is I've seen some early concept art for the redesign that's much closer to their old look, and much better (with extra fluff/frill/scale thickness to the neck and head frill, giving a more "insulated" vibe), and it seems they took that and dialed it to parody-level excess. It looks like somebody took off a dragon turtle's head and glued it to a dragon a quarter the size. There's even some concept art that gives the bronze a similar bobblehead treatment and I'm <em>extremely</em> glad they didn't go with that (or its ridiculous stubby legs) in the end.</p><p></p><p>The new copper is eh, but it's an improvement on the old one for sure, which had very little distinguishing character IMO. The new blue is good, the new black is eh (I miss the sleekness of the old one), the new red is good.</p><p></p><p>But man oh man do I hate the new white dragon design. It genuinely drags down my feelings about everything else in the set, because I know using the new designs is generally going to carry the expectation of a package deal. And I hate that bobbleheaded frozen bird turtle abomination that much.</p><p></p><p>On a more positive note, and this is my personal preference of course (as with everything else I've said), the 2024 green dragon wyrmling in the art book is one of the cutest D&D creatures I have ever seen. Like a winged snake-gecko. A snecko, if you will. If you haven't seen it, you should.</p><p></p><p>In fact...</p><p>Behold, the winged snecko!</p><p>[ATTACH=full]390457[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>P.S.: I don't know if this is intended or not but the PDF for the 2024 dragon artbook is currently an exposed URL. I searched for the artbook to see where I could find the new designs, and the first result was a PDF served up for free by the kindly folks at (checks notes)... media.dndbeyond.com. Huh. Wasn't it for sale as part of a bundle or something?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="InkTide, post: 9542331, member: 7048463"] I didn't like the new gold at first, but it's grown on me a lot. Everything else looks alright (new brass is eh, too similar to the new bronze but not as good, but I never liked the face shields in either design) to superb (I absolutely adore the new bronze and green dragon designs, and the new silver keeps everything that made the 2014 one my favorite visually)... besides the new white dragon. I [I]really[/I] don't like that one. It's always been basically a giant, plucked, extra-frozen chicken, but when they "bulked up" the neck with "scale feathers" (cool idea, I like it) it looks like they ballooned the skull size with it (not cool idea, I don't like it). That's... not how birds or fluffy animals or skulls work. The face is [I]way[/I] too wide, not just for the neck, but also the body that has to hold it up. What's extra frustrating is I've seen some early concept art for the redesign that's much closer to their old look, and much better (with extra fluff/frill/scale thickness to the neck and head frill, giving a more "insulated" vibe), and it seems they took that and dialed it to parody-level excess. It looks like somebody took off a dragon turtle's head and glued it to a dragon a quarter the size. There's even some concept art that gives the bronze a similar bobblehead treatment and I'm [I]extremely[/I] glad they didn't go with that (or its ridiculous stubby legs) in the end. The new copper is eh, but it's an improvement on the old one for sure, which had very little distinguishing character IMO. The new blue is good, the new black is eh (I miss the sleekness of the old one), the new red is good. But man oh man do I hate the new white dragon design. It genuinely drags down my feelings about everything else in the set, because I know using the new designs is generally going to carry the expectation of a package deal. And I hate that bobbleheaded frozen bird turtle abomination that much. On a more positive note, and this is my personal preference of course (as with everything else I've said), the 2024 green dragon wyrmling in the art book is one of the cutest D&D creatures I have ever seen. Like a winged snake-gecko. A snecko, if you will. If you haven't seen it, you should. In fact... Behold, the winged snecko! [ATTACH type="full"]390457[/ATTACH] P.S.: I don't know if this is intended or not but the PDF for the 2024 dragon artbook is currently an exposed URL. I searched for the artbook to see where I could find the new designs, and the first result was a PDF served up for free by the kindly folks at (checks notes)... media.dndbeyond.com. Huh. Wasn't it for sale as part of a bundle or something? [/QUOTE]
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