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<blockquote data-quote="Mal Malenkirk" data-source="post: 4559288" data-attributes="member: 834"><p>[sblock]Sometimes I wonder where you get your numbers from... But you guys rarely make a mistake that advantage you! I have a player in my live group who does the same thing. Routinely rob himself of several points of bonus. That's how you know you are <em>not</em> dealing with a min/maxer.</p><p></p><p>Garrick: Your dagger attack with flankng bonus was +14 (32) and the damage with sneak attack was 1d4+2d6+5 (17)</p><p></p><p>I think you calculated this as if it was a basic attack. Deft strike does use DEX, not STR.</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, deft strike allows you to move, not shift. So the Angel has an opportunity attack.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/1821431/" target="_blank">Opportunity Attack (-2 marked,-2 Mirage) (1d20+9=10, 1d8+6=7)</a> vs 26</p><p></p><p>Missed</p><p>[/sblock]</p><p></p><p>The Angel roars in pain and suddenly becomes electrified and the surrounding agents are caught in the maelstrom.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/1821433/" target="_blank">Lightning damage, Gar;Dag;Nath (1d20+9=29, 1d20+9=12, 1d20+9=27, 1d8+4=7)</a> VS Fortitude (-2 to attack from Mirage factored in)</p><p></p><p>The robust dwarf fights off the effect but both Nathan and Garrick are shocked and dazed by the surge</p><p></p><p>Meanwhile the Flaming skull moves over the water and seize the opportunity to attack the disoriented Nathan but misses him.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/1821434/" target="_blank">Fire; +2 CA (1d20+14=17)</a> vs 20</p><p></p><p><img src="http://dc94.4shared.com/img/72666243/4e3393f4/Dam8.jpg?sizeM=3" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.4shared.com/file/72666243/4e3393f4/Dam8.html" target="_blank">4shared.com - photo sharing - download image Dam8.jpg</a></p><p></p><p>[sblock=Garrick,Nathan, Dagran]Reminder; Dazed = you grant CA, <strong>you can't flank</strong> and you can only take one standard action OR one move action OR one minor action.</p><p></p><p>That means the Angel isn't currently flanked, even for Dagran who isn't Dazed, because Garrick can't flank[/sblock]</p><p></p><p>Zombies; all gone</p><p>Angel; 8/88; bloodied, cursed, marked (nathan), immobilized (save ends), -2 to attack </p><p>Flaming skull; mocking you</p><p></p><p>Dagran : 49/66 ; -1 surge, no AP, </p><p>Barrion : 48 /56 ; -1 surge, no AP </p><p>Mirage ; 41/49 ; no AP</p><p>Nathan; 36/66, Dazed </p><p>Garrick; 40/52; Dazed</p><p>Leyra; 32 /49 ; -1 surge,</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mal Malenkirk, post: 4559288, member: 834"] [sblock]Sometimes I wonder where you get your numbers from... But you guys rarely make a mistake that advantage you! I have a player in my live group who does the same thing. Routinely rob himself of several points of bonus. That's how you know you are [I]not[/I] dealing with a min/maxer. Garrick: Your dagger attack with flankng bonus was +14 (32) and the damage with sneak attack was 1d4+2d6+5 (17) I think you calculated this as if it was a basic attack. Deft strike does use DEX, not STR. On the other hand, deft strike allows you to move, not shift. So the Angel has an opportunity attack. [url=http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/1821431/]Opportunity Attack (-2 marked,-2 Mirage) (1d20+9=10, 1d8+6=7)[/url] vs 26 Missed [/sblock] The Angel roars in pain and suddenly becomes electrified and the surrounding agents are caught in the maelstrom. [url=http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/1821433/]Lightning damage, Gar;Dag;Nath (1d20+9=29, 1d20+9=12, 1d20+9=27, 1d8+4=7)[/url] VS Fortitude (-2 to attack from Mirage factored in) The robust dwarf fights off the effect but both Nathan and Garrick are shocked and dazed by the surge Meanwhile the Flaming skull moves over the water and seize the opportunity to attack the disoriented Nathan but misses him. [url=http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/1821434/]Fire; +2 CA (1d20+14=17)[/url] vs 20 [IMG]http://dc94.4shared.com/img/72666243/4e3393f4/Dam8.jpg?sizeM=3[/IMG] [url=http://www.4shared.com/file/72666243/4e3393f4/Dam8.html]4shared.com - photo sharing - download image Dam8.jpg[/url] [sblock=Garrick,Nathan, Dagran]Reminder; Dazed = you grant CA, [B]you can't flank[/B] and you can only take one standard action OR one move action OR one minor action. That means the Angel isn't currently flanked, even for Dagran who isn't Dazed, because Garrick can't flank[/sblock] Zombies; all gone Angel; 8/88; bloodied, cursed, marked (nathan), immobilized (save ends), -2 to attack Flaming skull; mocking you Dagran : 49/66 ; -1 surge, no AP, Barrion : 48 /56 ; -1 surge, no AP Mirage ; 41/49 ; no AP Nathan; 36/66, Dazed Garrick; 40/52; Dazed Leyra; 32 /49 ; -1 surge, [/QUOTE]
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