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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 66314" data-attributes="member: 2011">How is 112 average points of damage not instant death to an average 9th level character? Yes, a Barbarian with a 20 Constitution would have an average of 109 hit points and would be at -3 (without Rage or some form of magical protection) if he was not injured in any way walking into it. But, a 9th level Fighter with that same 20 Constitution would be at –13 hits. A 9th level Wizard with that 20 Con would be at –43 hits.This assumes of course, that the 9th level character has an AC of 28 or higher as well. If he has an AC of 27 or the Wizard has an Int of 20 (vs. AC 28), it's suddenly 224 average points of damage. It gets much worse as the AC drops.But for 99% of characters, unless they are somehow magically prepared for the attack, it is instant death. No other 5th level spell (with the exception of Harm which is not a ranged attack) even comes close.Let’s see. 6 foot tall opponent. 1 foot wide (he is facing sideways and trying to avoid as many as possible). 6 square feet. It’s magic, so we can assume that the spell itself does not purposely TK each object into each other. Each shuriken is 4 inches by 1/2 inch (for the round ones, you could probably get 3 or 4 times as many of the dart-like ones). 2 square inches. There are 144 square inches in a square foot, so 432 shurikens in 6 square feet. That’s still 432 points of damage since you can assume that the ones that hit are the ones that get there first. Since it is magic, any interference must by default be done by those that “missed”. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />You have a strange idea of what is ok in the game. To each their own.</blockquote>

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