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<blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7585051" data-attributes="member: 6919838">&quot;Considering the fact that this change was for the play at my table (of which you have no idea how often I set DCs at 11, 14, 17, 21 or whatever)... I find it funny that you've been trying to claim my change doesn't work for what I've been trying to accomplish.&nbsp; &quot;But, by this logic any change you put forth for **discussion** or analysis on an open forum cannot be addressed by others. If we do not have exact and precise knowledge of what you do at your table then we cannot at all evaluate your proposal to roll 2d10. For all we know, you only ever assign DC 23. This sounds like the logic a guy gave me once back in a dice debate some decades ago, about how to calculate average damage from various attacks with various attack rolls using d20s.His &quot;logic&quot; was that his own persona D20 rolled a 14 more than any other number and so he thought it was perfect math process to use the &quot;mode&quot; not the mean or not the distribution of results. So he based all of his proposals based on the d20 rolling 14.The key part of this then becomes - the difference between 1d20 and 2d10 distribution is that whether +2 is &quot;more&quot; in 1d20 or 2d10 depends on where on the curve you are. So, if we cannot now assume a &quot;common distribution of Dcs&quot; for analysis, we have now been shut out of any analysis - dont have the tools.So, hey, when we start from a basis of &quot;ignoring anybody else's DCs and only counting whatever i do ay my table that you guys dont know&quot; the only reasonable reply is to not offer any anlaysis since we dont have any info to go on.So, basically, thats a wrap.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="5ekyu, post: 7585051, member: 6919838"] "Considering the fact that this change was for the play at my table (of which you have no idea how often I set DCs at 11, 14, 17, 21 or whatever)... I find it funny that you've been trying to claim my change doesn't work for what I've been trying to accomplish. " But, by this logic any change you put forth for **discussion** or analysis on an open forum cannot be addressed by others. If we do not have exact and precise knowledge of what you do at your table then we cannot at all evaluate your proposal to roll 2d10. For all we know, you only ever assign DC 23. This sounds like the logic a guy gave me once back in a dice debate some decades ago, about how to calculate average damage from various attacks with various attack rolls using d20s. His "logic" was that his own persona D20 rolled a 14 more than any other number and so he thought it was perfect math process to use the "mode" not the mean or not the distribution of results. So he based all of his proposals based on the d20 rolling 14. The key part of this then becomes - the difference between 1d20 and 2d10 distribution is that whether +2 is "more" in 1d20 or 2d10 depends on where on the curve you are. So, if we cannot now assume a "common distribution of Dcs" for analysis, we have now been shut out of any analysis - dont have the tools. So, hey, when we start from a basis of "ignoring anybody else's DCs and only counting whatever i do ay my table that you guys dont know" the only reasonable reply is to not offer any anlaysis since we dont have any info to go on. So, basically, thats a wrap. [/QUOTE]

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