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2e.... more flavor than 3e?
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<blockquote data-quote="Shemeska" data-source="post: 2804450" data-attributes="member: 11697"><p>The 2e monster books are already out there in the desert with the bludgeoned body of the 3e monster books, already putting them in the ground. To continue to use the shovel analogy here.</p><p></p><p>Really, some of the best flavor text in the various monster manuals in 3e are very nearly a cut and paste job from the 2e material on the same monster. The Slasrath in the 3e Fiend Folio is almost a word for word cut & paste from its 2e source, but the 3e version is shorter and without the in character account of the creature's creation in the laboratory of an Ultroloth.</p><p></p><p>3e monster books have ecology information and pure flavor text as a seeming afterthought to the rules and listing of abilities. Compare that to the incredibly detailed and much longer and much more in depth ecology information in the 2e monster manuals (especially the later PSMC books, and for the sake of allowing the 3e books light in their shallow grave, we'll keep 'Faces of Evil' out of this for the moment).</p><p></p><p>3e rules work fine for me, I like them, and from what I understand, 2e rules weren't as balanced etc and the current edition is an upgrade for the most part. But the pendulum has swung too far towards the rules and we're missing out on the soul of the material when the best we're getting of description and flavor text, with rare exception, is a watered down and less detailed version of what we had in 2e.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shemeska, post: 2804450, member: 11697"] The 2e monster books are already out there in the desert with the bludgeoned body of the 3e monster books, already putting them in the ground. To continue to use the shovel analogy here. Really, some of the best flavor text in the various monster manuals in 3e are very nearly a cut and paste job from the 2e material on the same monster. The Slasrath in the 3e Fiend Folio is almost a word for word cut & paste from its 2e source, but the 3e version is shorter and without the in character account of the creature's creation in the laboratory of an Ultroloth. 3e monster books have ecology information and pure flavor text as a seeming afterthought to the rules and listing of abilities. Compare that to the incredibly detailed and much longer and much more in depth ecology information in the 2e monster manuals (especially the later PSMC books, and for the sake of allowing the 3e books light in their shallow grave, we'll keep 'Faces of Evil' out of this for the moment). 3e rules work fine for me, I like them, and from what I understand, 2e rules weren't as balanced etc and the current edition is an upgrade for the most part. But the pendulum has swung too far towards the rules and we're missing out on the soul of the material when the best we're getting of description and flavor text, with rare exception, is a watered down and less detailed version of what we had in 2e. [/QUOTE]
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