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<blockquote data-quote="Storm Raven" data-source="post: 2804595" data-attributes="member: 307">You see, here's the problem with a lot of 2e &quot;flavor&quot; - for many people it is worthless. I don't need an account of the slasrath's creation in an ultoloth's laboratory, ultraloth's don't exist in my campaing and the slasrath has a wildly different origin. But in 2e, I have to decouple the slasrath from the &quot;flavor&quot; provided by the text and replace it with my own, and then I get players who assumed that the slasrath (or some other creature) has the same background, ecology, and other fluff as was printed in the books; in many cases persisting no matter how often I pointed out that the flavor material in the books was not applicable to the campaign.Useless fluff is just wasted paper and ink. The bulk of 2e's flavor was just wasted fluff. Give me rules to use the creatures with, and I'll fit them into the campaign. I don't need the very boring fluff of a second rate quasi-novelist. I need game rules. I can provide flavor all on my own.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Storm Raven, post: 2804595, member: 307"] You see, here's the problem with a lot of 2e "flavor" - for many people it is worthless. I don't need an account of the slasrath's creation in an ultoloth's laboratory, ultraloth's don't exist in my campaing and the slasrath has a wildly different origin. But in 2e, I have to decouple the slasrath from the "flavor" provided by the text and replace it with my own, and then I get players who assumed that the slasrath (or some other creature) has the same background, ecology, and other fluff as was printed in the books; in many cases persisting no matter how often I pointed out that the flavor material in the books was not applicable to the campaign. [i][/i] Useless fluff is just wasted paper and ink. The bulk of 2e's flavor was just wasted fluff. Give me rules to use the creatures with, and I'll fit them into the campaign. I don't need the very boring fluff of a second rate quasi-novelist. I need game rules. I can provide flavor all on my own. [/QUOTE]

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